Only Just Realised I’m Most Likely Autistic at 61 years!

I’ve always thought I was different, but it’s taken me a lifetime to realise I’m probably autistic. As a child, I would spend hours in my room, on my own, bouncing up and down on the balls of my feet and flapping my hands around while my mind indulged in complex and detailed fantasy narratives; all the things I dreamt of doing, but none of them out of the realms of possibility. It’s something I still do today, but only when no one is looking…obvs.

I was an only child but quite happy to be by myself, in my own little world. At primary school, I was considered very intelligent and I managed to cope reasonably well, though I had no interest in sports or games and preferred my own world. Secondary school didn’t suit me at all. It was too big and noisy and I found very little to interest me. Again I was considered to be bright and was in the top stream but I had no interest in lessons that didn’t seem important to me. I didn’t misbehave but I just tuned out, I could hear the teacher, I could read a book but none of it sunk in. I failed almost all of my O Levels…quite spectacularly. I tried to revise, I would sit and look at textbooks, read the words, but none of it sunk in and none of it seemed worth knowing about. I have always been auto-didactic, I just won’t be taught things by others, everything I ever wanted to learn, I’ve taught myself, I struggle with instructions and can’t even follow a YouTube video unless it’s something that particularly interests me.

My (step) grandson has just been diagnosed as being autistic, he’s high functioning and will be getting help with learning. As a result of taking an interest in his diagnosis, I came to the realisation that so many autistic traits seemed familiar to me. I’ve always had special interests, I’m a visual thinker, I have a large circle of friends but I really struggle with making small talk and get very stressed by large social gatherings. I’m a photographer and if I go to a party, I avoid conversation by hiding behind my camera, I’m prone to clumsy conversation and saying things I feel are inappropriate.

My photography is my saving Grace, I order things visually, I’m acutely observant and see patterns and details others don’t. I have an innate understanding of music but I have no technical understanding as that would involve the kind of study that my attention deficit does not allow for. I have always fidgeted, tapping and drumming with my fingers and feet and have found a creative outlet for this as a percussionist, playing Latin percussion. I still infuriate everyone with my relentless drumming on any surface that’s close to hand. I see music in my head, I have some kind of visual representation of what I hear and music moves me emotionally very intensely. I’m very impatient and hate waiting in any queue, I dislike large crowds and shrill noises like a child screaming really make me want to cover my ears and flee. I dislike strong perfumes, which disappoints my wife as she likes them.

These are just a few of the things I’ve realised would probably have me diagnosed autistic, there are many more. I’ve completed all of the online questionnaires I can find on the subject and they all score me very high for autism and ADD. I’m not sure I would get much benefit from a formal diagnosis now and it seems there’s a long wait for such a thing on the NHS and the private consultations are so expensive. It would have been so useful though if I were my grandson’s age and at the very beginning of my educational journey. It helps to know though that there’s a likely reason for my oddness and I’m glad I’m the way I am with all my passions and quirks. I’ve only just discovered this forum, hope to discover more enlightening things here. Apologies if I’ve gone on too long…I’m rather prone to that!

  • Bless you and welcome, I got only half way down reading your post, before my brain was firing ... ok potential ADD or ADHD in addition to autism. I know, I taught ASC/ ADHD kids, though I 'm not qualified to diagnose.

    Not an ADHDer myself, though I am autistic, dyslexic, a synesthete and potentially (not sure) dyspraxic...so well and truely neurodivergent.

    I'm 57 btw, diagnosed last year... your call now whether you remain content with self identification or want an assessment.. Self identification is more than good enough for us :-)

    Either way, welcome to the best club in the world and congrats on finding your truth.

  • Be careful Jeff, you can’t show personal details. 

  • Jeff I am speechless!!!  Your photography is incredible and I find it very interesting that you most particularly capture people (well and dogs) and their important moments and amazing facial expressions.

    That's not to mention the lightning, colour, clarity, movement and spacing in your photos.

    I hope your photography makes you happy - you have certainly found your talent, and it sounds like you can combine your talent with things you love like music.

    In my novel the photographer has taken photos of his family.  And music is a key part of the novel too.  I really hope to chat with you about various things when I get back into it.

    In the meantime thank you so much for sharing your amazing work.

  • Thanks Luna, I’ve embraced being a bit odd now and it’s nice to know there’s a label for my oddities. I’m glad it’s better understood these days and youngsters like my grandson will get some help, especially with learning.

    keep taking the selfies..I’m on Instagram @jeffslade if you want to see some of my photos..

  • Aw, thanks Helen, great to hear from you. I like your reference to Bach, I grew up in a home with classical music and loved Bach from an early age. I see the notes in my head, they form as visual patterns, if I turn the music off, it goes on playing in my head, with piano pieces, like the Goldberg Variations, I can hear the left and right hand parts with great clarity and separation as they go on playing in my head when the music has been switched off,

    There are many things I’m no good at..at all! Like DIY and car mechanics..I get infuriated too quickly and lose interest. In fact, I do that with most things apart from my passion of photography. I can get lost in drawing and have recently got fairly obsessed with drawing/painting landscapes on my big IPad. I always liked to paint and draw, but I live on a boat and don’t have space to lay out materials, so this is the perfect solution. Photography is great because with digital photography I can get immediate results..

    Ive just come to accept that I’m the way I am now and it’s not going to change. Hoping my little grandson gets some more help at school with his autism and goes on to be a little genius! Who knows !

    www.jeffsladephotographer.com

    Needs updating…I do stuff everyday..  @jeffslade on Instagram if you do that.

  • Welcome in! :) 

    I'm glad you've managed to identify so much in yourself, it's a great feeling knowing isn't it? And don't worry about a later diagnosis lots of people here are in the same boat as you. 

    Your photography sounds fab! I love to take selfies but I'm not very good at photography in general. It sounds like you really see and understand what's around you and it gives you an edge, a different view. I think that's amazing.

    I hope you enjoy being here.

  • Hi Jeff,

    Welcome and I really liked reading your post because a couple of things you mentioned remind me of my dear Dad, who was never diagnosed, while I was unofficially diagnosed in my late 40s (I'm now in my 50s).

    Dad used to drum his fingers on the tabletop but not as percussion but something he did when he was thinking and possibly about to say something.  My hubby and I loved that about Dad.  He also disliked strong smells and was always coming into the kitchen to turn on the exhaust fan.

    Like you I love music even though I can't play very well, and particularly Bach and I think that's partly because of the beautiful patterns and maths of the music.

    Also, how wonderful that you're a photographer.  I've been working on a novel for years and one of the characters is a photographer.  If you don't mind I might ask your opinion on a couple of details down the track.  But I'm not writing just at the moment, as I'm into illustrating just now.  Hopefully next year I"ll get back into it.

    Anyhow just wanted to let you know that I can relate to some of your traits and the late diagnosis.  My informal diagnosis was given as 'subclinical Aspergers' just as Aspergers was going out of vogue I suppose.  Anyway my counsellor got me to look at Tony Attwood's stuff and I found that quite helpful.  I like Tony because he is very positive in the way he talks about Aspergers.  I agree there doesn't seem to be that much out there for us middle aged folks.

    Also my counsellor says that in the past he knew a lot of people who were doing reasonably well but were generally considered a bit eccentric, whereas many of those people probably were autistic.

    I've found the people on this forum intelligent, creative, kind and pretty logical too!

  • Interesting, it’s amazing that we have lived this way all this time without realising there’s a reason for it and a name to give it. Of course, when I was small, the condition wasn’t so well understood or appreciated. I hope my young, autistic grandson gets the help and understanding I didn’t have.

  • Yes, I’ve already found it cathartic to describe some of my more outlandish quirks without feeling too ashamed or embarrassed. Thanks for the welcome.

  • I was diagnosed earlier this year at the age of 57, after a lifetime of feeling as if I don't fit in and feeling very awkward in all social situations. I started taking an interest in autism as my son had challenging behaviour when he was younger, then I did a lot of research, and realised that the difficulties faced by autistic people were what I was experiencing. A diagnosis was important for me as I needed support to get back to work. I now work for a disability confident employer who supports me and will make adjustments if I need them. 

  • Welcome Jeff, I've just turned 60 and only realised last year so still trying to work out what is me and what is masking.  I agree that if you have lived most of your life feeling odd then there is not really a lot of help you can get so I find this forum quite good where you can aske questions without fear of being ridiculed.

  • Hi there and welcome!  I'm late diagnosed too, at age 55 in my case, and it's been quite a journey.  Very glad to be here though.  Finding your tribe is extremely helpful!

  • Thanks Roy, a lot of what you say rings true for me. I was an only child and I too tended to prefer the company of adults. I never had any children of my own, partly because I felt it too difficult to connect with children. I acquired two step-daughters who were fairly well grown up when I first met them and now both have children of their own, who I do seem to be able to get on with but I don’t think I would be able to live with! My 3 year old grandson has just been formerly diagnosed as autistic.

    I don’t really feel the need to get a formal diagnosis, I don’t think it will help me in any way, I just am the way I am and I’ve lived like this for so long now, it has its difficulties and shortcomings but also it’s gifts and benefits too. It’s just really interesting to hear from other people who have a similar mindset and to finally have some understanding of what it is that’s made me the way I am. Good to hear from you.

  • Hi and welcome, I’m glad you finally had the light bulb moment. I’m 55 and if anyone had said that I’m  autistic a year ago, I would have laughed. Your childhood was very similar to mine. I preferred to be in my bedroom or watching tv. To be honest I found children of my own age boring, I preferred adults. I wouldn’t see another child for the whole of any school holidays and didn’t really mind. I also was in top sets for English lit, language and Maths. I failed all my exams, I can read a paragraph 4 times and still not process it. Spelling is another thing that is a total puzzlement. Turns out I’m probably dyslexic. Thank god for predictive text. I’m self taught in most things, I love the challenge of learning something new and will take it to an extreme, once I’ve done this then it becomes boring and I learn something else. A lot of people here are self diagnosed and happy in their skin. It’s as valid as a diagnosis, you’re not asking for any accommodation from work. For me just knowing why I can’t do social occasions and things like being in conversation with groups has been really helpful. Quite a few on here who have had a diagnosis thought it would solve everything, it often doesn’t, you still have the same struggles. I am happy at home now not to mask so much. Try and start to process a lot of things from your life, more and more start to become unearthed. 

  • Sounds familiar..when I was a child, I read books and quite enjoyed fiction, but these days I have no time for fictional stories at all. I struggle to read a book nowadays, I read a page or two and then I’m distracted by something…anything! I spend a lot of time driving everyday and I’ve taken to audiobooks in a big way, always non-fiction, I can only really listen intently when I’m driving and there are no other distractions, but years of listening to Radio 4 and more recently audiobooks and podcasts have been my university. 
    I don’t really watch movies, if I do, I have to ask my wife what’s going on after the first five minutes and then every five minutes after that! I very seldom watch drama programmes always preferring documentaries and news. I’ve absolutely no interest in reality shows like I’m a Celebrity and have zero interest in any sport…all of which I see as a waste of time. No wonder I find it hard to make conversation!

  • Welcome.

    Congrats on self-identification. It's the most important part. 

    You're right there is not help for grownups. But so be it.

    I'm autistic + ADHD and I learn very much like you, can't be thaught, can't revise, either I get it or I don't. It depends if I can focus on it. I'm a lot better at managing my attention now than when I was at school, so I joke ''I'm like a sponge and absorb it all'', when it comes to learning

    Vivid imagination and imagining visual representations for other things like music and concepts in many forms, that's autistic definitely. My version evolved to Personal 3D Autocad.

    You might like watching a channel www.youtube.com/.../Autistamatic