Dogma Surrounding Autism

As I’ve come across more people claiming autistic people are a problem it’s made me realise there’s a lot of dogmatic assumptions and beliefs about autism.

The main example is the assumption autism is a social problem because we don’t fit social norms and that social norms are inherently good. When we look to the past we can see “social norms” are actually inherently bad, social norms by their nature are discriminatory and are in direct violation of human rights such as autonomy. Less than a century ago treating women like they’re something less and have fewer rights than men was the social norm. In the 19th century slavery was part of the social norm. Each time we look at a social norm from any time period today’s people frown on it, it must of been someone with a “social problem” to want to deviate and change the social norm. I wonder if any of them were autistic!

Another example is the dogmatic assumption autistic people have a difficulty making friends. Autistic people do all that’s needed to be done to become friends, the reason things don’t work out is because the nonautistic people have a difficulty accepting people who don’t fit the standard norm. Nonautistic people are simply blaming their difficulties on autistic people, friendships are a two way street after all, not the autistic one is responsible for everything. 

I won’t list all the dogmatic assumptions that came to my mind but as one last example, the assumption autistic people have nothing good to offer society which is why they find the idea of a cure beneficial. I can believe that numerous of the greatest scientists throughout history were autistic because “autism traits” are the precise behaviours required to make new discoveries. Narrow interests, detail orientation, intensely focused, can detach themselves from people and spend more time on their work, better at recognising systems and patterns. I would say all these autism traits are of high value if the autistic person is given the opportunity to use them, and that they should be on the “Human Ability Spectrum” instead of defined as “deficits”.

I see a lot of dogma surrounding autism and hypocrisy by people failing to evaluate today’s social norms that people fail to recognise they have the very same difficulties.

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  • The biggest issue I have, and controversial I know, but its this: why, ultimately, should we have to adapt to society, rather than society adapting to us? 

    Yes we are absolutely a minority, no doubt about that. But for every single minority group, society goes to extreme lengths to represent.

    Take the trans "debate". Trans people are an even smaller minority than autistic people and yet we hear discussions about their "rights" more or less every day. Where is the discussion about the rights of autistic people?

    If you look at the media, autistic people are almost NEVER portrayed in a good image in the media.

    Elon Musk, is autistic, and is constantly berated and even had his disability mocked by a senior Twitter staff member. 

    Greta Thunberg is probably the only autistic person represented in a positive light, even though I personally don't like her, though that's got nothing to do with autism, though I do feel her views on climate are caused by a hyperfixation on the issue. We autistic people can become hyperfixated on things and not see the bigger picture, which I think Miss Thunberg is guilty of.

    I have lost track of the number of times I've read about extremists being prosecuted and the fact they are "autistic" being brought up. I did a thread the other day about how almost all paedophiles in the vigilante stings we see have some form of autism. Back to public figures, people like Mark Zuckeberg (not official autism but suspected) are mocked for their mannerisms. Imagine if a black person or a gay person was mocked. There would be a national outcry.

    Everything we do is not good enough for mainstream society. The word "autistic/autism" is used as a playground insult as much as "gay" yet it's never brought up. Other slurs like "spaz" are far too frequent. To be honest, I hate the word autism in itself, it sounds too much like austerity, austere etc. 

    I am a bit sick of being told I have to do x just to do basci things like not get fired from work or make a basic relationship. 

    At the same time, I'm at risk of sounding too depressing here. The biggest thing I feel with this community is almost everyone is negative about the condition and its effects. As someone who also has ADHD, the ADHD community seems to be far more positive and almost embracing their condition. I embrace a lot of my autism. My honesty. People tell me I'm "unfiltered". Sometimes this (may) be bad in terms of certain things like sex, but I make people laugh when they can actually be bothered to talk to me. I actually got compared to "greta thunberg" in terms of a local council project I'm working on, and about how hardline, relentness, and ruthless in getting stuff done. I've always kind of wanted to go into politics and I feel I could be very popular among the publci for being honest, less so by the establishment. 

    The way I see it, whilst there are undoubtedly a lot of autistic people with issues, some of the most successful people in society are autistic. I think a disproportionately high number of autistic people, actually, in relation to the NT population go on to be very successful. Elon Musk, Albert Einstein, etc etc. Just like Jews, we are disproportionatley represented when it comes to scientific and academic achievements, and also like that group, we have also faced high levels of persecution. It's worth remembering that autistic people were murdered in the Holocaust, though obviously I'm not trying to compare our suffering to that of European Jews in the Holocaust - it was a Nazi, ultimately, who coined the term "aspergers" and that remains a point of contention for many. But it does always irk me when some try and suggest Hitler was autistic...no evidence of that from what I have seen.

  • Elon Musk is disliked because he has done or been alleged to have done a lot of horrible things, not because he is autistic. I've also never heard of any extremists with autism - mental health issues yes, but not autism. Do you have some examples? I've also never heard autistic used as an insult in the playground, kids don't know enough about it. Gay, yes, although less now than 15 years ago. I didn't actually hear spaz 15 years ago (I worked in schools for about 5 years), that was old and becoming unacceptable even when I was at school, so 25 years ago, however there is a strong regional aspect to insults so you may hear different things in your area. I'm in the south. 

    Trans rights are largely a big thing at the moment because there is a fundamental disagreement between Trans campaigners and radical feminists about what a woman is and how to protect women only spaces like changing rooms and refuges while promoting the right of those born as men to live as women. Interestingly no-one is really concerned about the other way around as no-one is threatened by natal women wanting to be men. There is no similar fuss about autistic rights as no-one is against any of our rights as they don't ultimately impact anyone else. You also don't have to declare you are autistic when you sign up for a passport, or when you fill in any sort of government form. The two really aren't comparable. 

    If you are going to go into politics you need to know its a bad idea to ever bring the Holocaust and Hitler into any conversation. There is really nowhere good that can go. 

  • I seem to remember Katie Hopkins said on twitter or elsewhere that someone was bring "spectrumy" or something like that. Using it in a derogatory manner.

    If ever there was such a movement for autistic people I don't know how I'd feel about taking part. Autistic experiences are so varied. No one can speak for me apart from myself and I'm just me but with a differently wired brain to most people.

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  • I seem to remember Katie Hopkins said on twitter or elsewhere that someone was bring "spectrumy" or something like that. Using it in a derogatory manner.

    If ever there was such a movement for autistic people I don't know how I'd feel about taking part. Autistic experiences are so varied. No one can speak for me apart from myself and I'm just me but with a differently wired brain to most people.

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