Feeling like a savant and worries of delusion of grandeur

I feel like a savant based on my restricted interests, is this normal? I don't mean to sound like I have delusion of grandeur, but that is this core symptom of ASD that I experience.

I am sorry for being worried that I have delusion of grandeur, some people will think how insane I am if I tell them that I am ten times more intelligent than them.

That is why it is very hard to tell the difference between restricted interests and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I am sorry that I said that, but some symptoms of ASD looks very similar to NPD by observation.

  • I sometimes get accused of acting superior or a know-it-all, though I don't see myself that way. To me it's just that there are topics that I've researched and thought through to a much greater depth than most people around me. So when they have a different conclusion to me, I can keep pointing out the error in their reasoning if I choose to.
    I have to remind myself that this can make people feel bad, and sometimes they want to believe something despite the facts or flawed reasoning. I don't see it that way when it happens to me - if I've got something wrong and somebody can show me how I'm delighted to change my viewpoint. But I get that for others they don't see it this way and feel that a series of rebuttals is being obstinate or a put-down.

  • Hi, I have interests that I do research and have become quite knowledgable in, to me it’s that I do just get very absorbed in a subject. I enjoy finding out as much as possible about my special interest. I don’t look at myself as highly intelligent. I do function by logic, I have done a recent IQ test and the results were high, it doesn’t make me intelligent, the test is ideal for autistic brains as it’s based on working out patterns in numbers, diagrams and shapes, it’s pure logic. If I turn the spell check off on my phone, you then wouldn’t understand me, I have a problem with words, that doesn’t make me unintelligent either, my view is intelligence levels should be based over a broad spectrum. Our interests as autistic people are just us being us. Sometimes I’ve researched a subject and then ‘dropped it’ and have then gone to a new subject. I’ve always thought that if I can learn one thing everyday then I’m doing okay.  

  • That does make sense, although not all people with Schizophrenia have hallucinations, and it depends on what Schizophrenia it is.

  • But not all schizophrenics suffer from delusions of grandeur though. I really suppose it really depends on what their hallucination is about. I mean NPD doesn't really hallucinate or see things that are not there. However, there's likely someone out there diagnosed with both schizophrenia and NPD, because of their brain's wiring. I mean it's interesting to think about.

  • And, so is behavior in Delusional Disorder, it's different than Schizophrenia, but is part of the same spectrum of Schizophrenia and NPD is associated with Delusion of granduer.

  • I think that schizophrenia has hallucinations of imagery and/or sounds, which is sort of like overlapping the dream state with reality. 

    But NPD are not hallucinating or having the that type of delusion, and to place NPD under the the schizophrenia spectrum would not seem right to me. 

    NPD's delusion of grandeur, is just their strong belief that they are better than everyone else, as if it's a fact. It's different from schizophrenia, who hallucinates imagery and/or sounds that are not there, well, unless NPD takes some sort of hallucinatory drug to induce it, I suppose. But in general, Schizophrenia behavior and traits don't really match those with NPD. 

  • The confusing part is that Delusional Disorder itself is part of Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders. I think in theory Narcissistic Personality Disorder should be part of Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders as well. But, that is just a theory.

  • I feel confused, I use pure logic with my restricted interests, I am sorry that I sound delusional to you.

  • What you have sounds more like ASD, because your reasoning is drawn from pure logic, rather than from the need to put down others in order to remain better than others.

    I think characters from Star Trek, like Spock or Data, would be people on the ASD spectrum, who usually use their pure logic without much emotion, and there isn't any malace in their character. It's more like they deeply analyse every situation.

    But I would think that characters from the Game of Thrones, like Viserys Targaryen and Joffrey Baratheon, would show behaviors and temperments of those with NPD or at somewhere in the cluster B personalities, where they need to harm others and dominate. 

    But I mean, that's my observation of it, but don't just take my word for it. Draw your own conclusions too. 

  • I don't quite agree, some people with ASD have this type of thinking and behaviors too. And being antisocial and sadistic is not neurotypical, it's kind of unhealthy.

  • I completely misread what you said. I am sorry!

    I thought you said that delusional thinking is a neurotypical thinking, until I read it again. I was reading too fast.

  • Intelligence is a nebulous concept. The further to the extremes of any IQ test you get the less accurate and meaningful they number becomes. It's totally normal though to become in an expert or prodigy in your area of special interest. That is a product of dedication and focus. Its not wrong to take pride in that. And its understandable that to you, subjectively, your special interest would seem like the most important and worth while pursuit. But don't be surprised if others don't agree. Being the worlds best anything is impressive, and with a narrow enough field that may well be within your grasp, but it's not the only important thing in the world.

  • Most 'Disorders' are based on NeuroTypical Thinking which is not Autistic Thinking. The ability to see where Psychology crosses a line and begins to restructure it's reasoning strictly around NT perspectives and Modes of Operations is important. 

    What you could use is simply a nice dose of values and ethics on being kind, affording dignity. Being careless with our words and merciless to others is how a majority of Autistics feel treated as they grow up. We don't have to pay that back. We can simply learn rules of engaging by helping inspire others rather than stepping on them. 

    A NeuroTypical will know this and choose to extract, deplete and destroy others because it makes them feel good. This is a form of Sadism. It's part of the NT system of hierarchy hard-wired into Tribal inclusiveness. When the Autistic finds strength in better Ethics we can begin to realise that system of thinking doesn't give us a reward like it does for someone who thrives on competition. We thrive, rather on analytical reasoning. And there's nothing more reasonable than choosing to withhold how superior I am when another is struggling and just doesn't have the brain-power to keep up. We can't all be autistic! 

  • I have restricted interests in some topics related to Foransics.

  • Intelligence quotients go from around 40 to 160 in everyday life. If you believe in them, that is. Most people have an IQ in the middle of that range. Is an IQ of 110 double    that of 100? Not in my maths, though I suppose you could be twice as intelligent.

    Perhaps you might do well to separate intelligence, education and information. Especially with special interests Autistic people have lots of information, and might  know 1000 times another person about something.

     But what about other types of intelligence, such as social intelligence, understanding of myself, awareness of my body, and feelings , and location in time and space?

  • I can come off as rude, but my motive is not meant to put people down. I am only very intelligent at my restricted interests, but other than that, I know my limits. 

    Its usually based on my pure logic.