Mediation - I am autistic and wanting to support my family

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone can help. I'm exceptionally stressed about trying to support my brother through mediation. My brother is a loving dad and started his child mediation as he was in a very emotionally abusive relationship with his ex-partner. I've tried to find some mediation specific support groups but have found nothing out there. I wondered if anyone had any knowledge regarding this subject. 

Specifically I wanted to know if professional mediators are aware and can identify lying in sessions. My brothers ex-partner was reluctant to go through mediation but unless she wanted to prevent him going to court she has agreed. She is very manipulative and has been telling many lies to the mediator since the sessions began. I find it hard to detect liars but from mutual friends, the conversations that I have had with my brother and the abusive 'paper trail' she has left I have a thorough understanding of what is going on. All my brother wants (as we do as a family) is that his son, my nephew, has the most stable upbringing possible. We also want the emotional and abusive behaviour of my brothers ex to cease. In his documentation that he has prepared for the mediation process he has also stipulated that any contact between himself and his ex will be through a third-party unless there are extraneous circumstances.

I am finding this exceptionally hard and stressful. All I want is for my nephew and brother to be happy. Just to add that my brother isn't seeking to 'gain' custody of his son.

Any advice would be welcome. Thank you.

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  • Heads up: This post is made by an autistic member of this forum and thus not spam ... it is also not abuse but writing passionately with the intent to help.  ← This in response to someone flagging the post.  
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    KNOW WHAT YOUR FIGHTING FOR & STICK WITH IT : Mediation is 100% a buffer zone than it is a place for determining what it best for the child.  Our experience has shown us mediation is just a stepping stone.  That is once you understand that mediation is more reducing the line of people in an overwhelmed system than it is about sorting out all the lies.  This is very important to understand.

    I have been involved in quite a few mediations and had a lot to do with family court.  I won custody of my son and recently my wife was awarded fully parental rights of our grandson.  I am diagnosed as autistic, my daughter (who lives with us) is diagnosed autistic and my grandson is diagnosed autistic; LvlL2 All high functioning. Both cases went on for many years and involved several bouts of mediation.  I represented myself with the help of my wife regarding my son.  With respect to my grandson my wife represented herself and then later got legal aid.

    First & foremost, understand that mediation is not the place to present paper trails.  Generally both parties in mediation will hold back what they have in regards to evidence.  It is common for one or both parties to claim they have more a case than the other, however most claimants will not reveal their cards as doing so can strengthen may strengthen the other parties case.  Mediation in most cases just ends up being "LOOK - I got this much against you (without showing all the evidence - maybe just a little) where the other party can then either cave in or stand their ground.   The mediator's J-O-B is to get both parties to agree.  That's it!  They are not there to judge or make a determination about who it lying and what is the best interest in the child.  Mediators get credits on how many people they can get to agree.  This is really important to understand.  Especially if you know yourself that the best way to get what you want is to go to court.  

    Without knowing the back story of your case and also what it is your brother is fighting for, It is hard to give advice.  You see, if all you have is a few phone text and social media printouts - then that is not much to go on, however - you could still build a case.  Not agreeing is one of the first places you can do that.  BUT if you have medical reports, school reports, recordings, emails, receipts, witnesses, letters of support, creditable/key people willing to make b affidavit and so on ... then it is always best to go to court.  If you don't have these things, then is best to live life working towards then.  That is how you build the case.

    Again, not knowing the back story and what it is that your brother is fighting for - You said not custody, so I will assume visitation and some form of parental rights - perhaps shared custody?  There are many facets to request.  If abuse has been involved you may very well want to go to court to get order that are much more heftier than what a mediator is warranted to write up.

    Be very careful with thinking the mediation is where all the lies and secrets are to be ironed out.  It is not.  We learned the hard way about mediation and regretted playing along with the 'let's agree' game as it become as I went from on session to the next as abuse continued ... until I understood how the court process worked, finally put my foot down re mediation and build my case.

    I can not underestimate how mediation is NOT the place to sort out the lies.  Mediation is 100% about getting two parties to agree.  Depending on the severity of you case and how much you want, this can be problematic at best.  The Orders written at mediation to not hold the same weight as they do in court.  

    Either you have a strong case or you don't.  If you have a strong case you are always best NOT agreeing ... stand your ground and go to court.  IF you fell you don't have a strong case - then pretend you do and hope the other party will yeild and then perhaps you can all live off a mediation agreement.  Personally when it comes to my own kids and abuse - I learned how to build a recommend other also do. Never agree at mediation if you feel the child is better off with you. 

    Of course if you are just on legally aid - public funds - you can be sure that your interests and that of the child are far - very far - from prioritized.  I've been there done that and seen it all.  In an overwhelmed system when publicly funded (even privately at times) - it can be more about the time constraints, difficulty level/complexity and also which judge your solicitor has to face.  All those kind of dynamics will dictate just how invested your lawyer becomes.  I sacked a few during the course of my case because they did not remember the names of my kids, did not include evidence I presented, as well as basically was abiding to the bureaucracy more than they were representing me and my kid. 

    Trust me - Mediation cares less for all the details.  Most public solicitors also just want it over and done.  To them a mediation agreement is as good as a win ... NEXT! 

    Be very clear about what you want - if your brother feels the other party is a threat to his child - then it is clear the only way to make others beleive that is NOT to agree.  The court is where lies, deception and all that kind of thing is determined ... not for a second will it be the job of the mediator. The mediator is trained to help you all hold hands and reduce the strain on the court system.  If you don't have much going on then fine ... go down that route - BUT - if your serious about getting what you want and revealing whatever evidence you have ... then court is the place to do that; NOT mediation. 

    MEDIATION TACTICS:
    I have this you have that --- scare tactic.
    Prod - Prod & Prod --- Attitude Test (less of an issue if you have held back your evidence can do the talking in court for you) Otherwise just play along holding your ground.  
    The prodding is just about contention that comes from the scare tactics and one's ability to contain themselves.  Like I say, not so much of an issue if you know you have the upper hand or simply just don't by into the mediation game and know the court room is where you need to be.

    Mediation is also a place where you will know if your solicitor (if you have one) is going to fight or not. 

    Building a case takes time. You need more than a few phone texts and social media print outs ... but they can help along side other stuff.  Just know what you want and be sure to stand your ground.  If you cave in at mediation on what your beleive to be abuse ... then you have probably done more harm to your own case in doing as much.

    That's my share ... take it or leave it.  The court system is toxic and so to many of the people in it.  On the surface they all know how to play the PR game ... but don't be fooled.   You need to understand the system thoroughly, know that what you want and stand your ground.  Good luck building and presenting a case.  99% most of the time ... we were better off filling out online court forms, formulating our own affidavits, phoning teachers, requesting letters, MAKE GENUINE NOTIFICATIONS & follow them up, request police reports, welfare reports and so on and on.  Even when my wife had a solicitor, the solicitor stood back at one point knowing their hands where tied, when we pick the case back up we were able to present more because they simply did not feel 'credited' enough to go down that path.

    It's like going to see a GP ... if you just follow along ... well ... that's another story but I think enough to make a point. 

    Mediation is NOT where the lies are sorted - is a poker game is all.  The other party might concede, might drop a few things useful for your case - but only if your pushing to go all the way ... which mediation does not want. It wants everyone to agree, which could be determinantal to a one's case. 


    My wife went on to become a Justice of the Peace.  I was luck to have her by my side.  We both learned a lot fighting not only for our children but also fighting the courts.  It's a bit like that ... I laugh to think how my wife later chose to become a JP.  Sigh ... we also did a few charities.  Seriously ...  don't underestimate what you and your brother can do.  Just learn how it all works and fight the fight.  Child abuse sucks but so to does the process in court.  I guess you really have to weigh it all up.  Is not for everyone.

    I understand none of what I have written may help ... but then again ... is good to know how the system works and what you expect.  They are never the same.  Lastly I understand it is not so easy for others to represent themselves which leaves them at the mercy of said solicitors/court system.

    Good luck with whatever you decide. 

  • Wow David, thank you for such an informative response, it's given me a lot to consider and think about. It will certainly help me support my brother. He's kept ALL the email and text correspondence with his ex, mainly all very abusive, so if it did unfortunately come to court he has all that. Yes, I can see that mediators want to tick boxes and sign the situation off. Your reply is very much appreciated!

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  • Wow David, thank you for such an informative response, it's given me a lot to consider and think about. It will certainly help me support my brother. He's kept ALL the email and text correspondence with his ex, mainly all very abusive, so if it did unfortunately come to court he has all that. Yes, I can see that mediators want to tick boxes and sign the situation off. Your reply is very much appreciated!

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