BBC Radio 4: The link between terrorism and autism.

This quite measured piece (in which National Autistic Society staff are interviewed) was broadcast on BBC Radio 4 (I've mentioned this earlier in replies to another post).

It looks at the Prevent programme, and reasons why autistic people feature heavily amongst those who come to the attention of the authorities.

You have to listen to the whole thing, including the scene-setting in the first half where autism isn't mentioned.   

I'm personally fine with this, in the context of today, although I worry, slightly, that if we end up with an even more extreme Government, on the left or the right, at some point in the future, information like this would make all autistic people very vulnerable.  

I also worry, slightly, that the brevity required for a consumer radio programme is unhelpful (but unavoidable). 

On the principle of 'nothing about us, without us', they have interviewed the NAS, and someone helped by the Prevent programme, but the true nature of the spectrum is not explained to a consumer audience.  If you knew nothing about autism, you may come away with the misleading impression that such vulnerability covered everyone diagnosed with it. They do make the point that of the 700,000 or so people diagnosed in the UK, the vast majority would have nothing to do with terrorism. 

But people seldom listen to radio with their entire attention.  They are driving, or working, or looking after the kids, or on an exercise bike.  People with a full adult reading age and a good education will listen to this with only half an ear, and they'll take away soundbites, one of which may be "autism = terrorism".  

I'm not critical of the programme - it's part of a series investigating terrorism, and why people get involved, and it's good journalism. 

I'm not critical of NAS involvement, because their non-involvement would not prevent it being broadcast, and it's better that the programme goes out with their voice than without it. 

But I think this sort of thing places a huge pressure on autistic people, and particularly those whose autism does not affect language and their ability to marshal and present an argument, because we all need to be advocates for an intelligent approach to this stuff. 

The is not the fault of the journalism, to be clear; the journalism is merely reporting the facts, in this instance.  It’s not anyone’s ‘fault’.  It’s a difficult, harsh, truth that those of us on the spectrum have to deal with.

We all need to be well informed about this stuff, and to keep abreast of it, and if we don't, events which have a critical impact on our lives will, indeed, be decided without us.

Some of the key messages coming out from this (more resources needed for psychiatric and support services) are really good.  There's no inaccuracy, that I can see.  But I just feel that this is a high risk area for us, and we should keep careful tabs on it.

Here's the link.  Happy listening(!)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0013swk 

(If the link doesn't work BBC i player / Terrorism and the Mind / The Mental Health Front Line / BBC Radio 4).  

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  • Wow! Someone opened that box and it wasn't me! But now I'm going to go there..

    I wrote a lot, then I remembered that there are policemen here, and I've already had a pop at them, so I think a bloody good edit of what I wrote is in order. Not because it revealed ANY unlawful activity, but it did start with...

    When the IRA were doing their campaign, I remember being struck by how much better I'd do it if I were minded to...

    *Snip*

    It's the prevention of Evil (a concept never really explored on the telly is it, of how you or I could be Evil and not realise it and how to avoid it instinctively) that makes the real difference of outcome, I feel, NOT the hiding of knowledge...

    That is the difference between a terrorist or a safety officer. The lack of evil intent.

    The UPSIDE of my sort of Autism it that it makes me really GOOD at being able to DO whatever it is takes my interest, which is occasionally very useful to others, the downside is that I'm quite bad at doing things that do not engage me at a fundamental level that is very hard to over come (like steering an oil tanker, doable, but not quickly or easily) which just causes me trouble and isolation, which is compounded by the difficulty in communication/ real world processing caused by the Autism. 

    *snip*

    The point i wandered off from, is that whilst the "aptitude" and "social isolation" are co-morbid with terrorism and Autism alike, it takes a special kind of nastiness to make a terrorist, called Evil in any civilised language, and that is what is the danger, not the autism. But whilst our aptitude for seeking and finding solutions would probably make us better terrorists, were are no more likely to be evil than any normie, who I am certain make up the majority of terrorists, it's just that like in "normal" life, the Autistic terrorist will Stick out like a sore thumb!

  • I'm not sure if this is a reference to my post, but for clarity, I'd not previously read the comments that you summarize here. I wasn't minded to get into personalized arguments.

  • You won't find one here, then.

    I wrote the post to which you are replying, directly to the OP straight off the bat, having read most of the OP and been triggered by the suggested link twixt Autism and terrorism, because to be honest a fair few screen villains seem to be autistic to me, and I've been cast as the villain myself more often than I believe is reasonable or correct. I wasn't referring to your post. 

    (Edit for readibility, and to make sure the sense is clear.) 

  • It's too much like hard work, and who wants the aggravation of trying to rule a bunch of NT's?

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