Jealousy- does anyone else suffer from it?

 I would say one of my biggest faults is jealousy.

I don't know why, but it is. I don't like it. But looking back over my life it has caused me most problems.

I don't know if jealousy is linked to autism or not.

Does any else find this a problem?

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  • Jealousy could be something felt by autistic people more- because we are excluded from society! We see everyone else having friends, families, fun times, being supported and loved by everyone. But we are treated like aliens. So it's not surprising if we feel jealousy.

  • I think your view of NTs is through rose tinted glasses. In one sentence you say NTs are familial, friendly, fun, considerate, loving and in another you state they treat 'us' like aliens and exclude us. In my youthful ignorance I thought the same, however, as I experienced society more my rose glasses fell off at the horror NTs will inflict on one another. I'm no longer jealous of them. I'd rather be the alien, the outcast, the loner the 'whatever'.

  • Those two things don't exclude each other. They can have fun with each other and still ostracise us. All I want is a group of supportive friends and family who are actually nice people, whether autistic or not.

  • Yes I'd like to see that information please.

    There will be more viruses, don't you worry. Covid is just the start. The viruses are coming for us now...unless we change our ways i.e. stop travelling round the globe quickly. Viruses like Ebola are always lurking, and most of those have a 90% death rate. If they got to densely populated areas, humans would die out very rapidly.

    Also, natural selection has stopped for humans. Most of us survive, including the stupid, dangerous and self centred ones. Until recently, the stupid ones died because they did stupid things. The dangerous and self centred ones were ostracised because they didn't contribute to the tribe, or they got killed in battles.

  • Yes. I was told recently that the Me Me Me approach is popular because it's the only proven way to get ahead. So that's what people do.

  • Yes. 'why can't we all just get along?'

    I think there are more and more greedy, self centred and manipulative people these days. In the past, people HAD to work together or they died. They either starved or were attacked by invaders or killed by animals or met numerous other horrible fates. Without your tribe you had no hope of surviving.

    In modern days, everyone can live their own little lives on their own track separate from everyone else quite happily, without ever needing anyone else. People can even have children without interacting with another person.

    We have become too individual perhaps? We have no common goal to work towards, no one depends on anyone else so everyone is selfish.

  • next nevel

    going subterranean

  • Oh it won't be stopped now. It is up to the custodians of it to continually improve it.

  • we passed the line where it was possible to stop it

    now density of population is undermining any restraints based on sustainability

    the only way is to escape ...from this planet

  • I'm sure I've seen a persuasive backlash to social media because of the reasons you brought up. If I can find the information again I'll drop it in. So far I've been able to put it down to greed, selfishness, inconsideration. 8 billion yes, I thought Covid would be the chaos answer to the exponential growth of our population, it started out that way but we have evolved and protected ourselves. To our detriment or not who knows.

    Our ancestors had to be successful for our own existence. Simpler times still provide lessons for us today in how to live better, if one chooses to do.

  • I don't believe it is easy for NTs to tell either. 1 of many reasons I keep to myself and be as self reliant as possible as i'm in the fortunate position to be able to do that.

  • because there is always few that will see it as an opportunity to get rich at the expense of other

    after all saying that there are people willing to sell their mothers if they can profit on it did not come from nowhere

    and everyone else is affraid of them

    I cannot tell one type from the other, and I keep forgeting about the former's existense falling prey to them over and over again

  • I agree and i realise it sounds a bit naive but why can't people just be nice to each other?

  • I used to have groups of friends when I was young, til I was in my mid twenties. Then they all faded away. Most people I know online are lonely and isolated in real life. The human race is becoming a bunch of individual people with no connections to each other.

    I agree about losing confidence in our species. They are particularly horrible at the moment- obsessed with money, fame, offended by everything, intent on hurting each other. Have they always been like this? How have we survived for so long if so? I think it's because the Earth is overcrowded. The population has doubled in the last 50 years, from 4 billion to 8 billion.

    I watched a documentary about some period in history, I think it was Neolithic. They reckon that humans were very happy then. Their skeletons showed no signs of attack, malnutrition or any other defect, therefore the people didn't have major wars, they ate well and probably lived simple, happy lives. That's what can be deduced anyway. Since then, humans have just got more violent and had more problems.

  • I guess that would be my completely blanked out glasses haha. I forget there are more grey areas than extremes as I've lost all confidence in our species.

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  • Yes I'd like to see that information please.

    There will be more viruses, don't you worry. Covid is just the start. The viruses are coming for us now...unless we change our ways i.e. stop travelling round the globe quickly. Viruses like Ebola are always lurking, and most of those have a 90% death rate. If they got to densely populated areas, humans would die out very rapidly.

    Also, natural selection has stopped for humans. Most of us survive, including the stupid, dangerous and self centred ones. Until recently, the stupid ones died because they did stupid things. The dangerous and self centred ones were ostracised because they didn't contribute to the tribe, or they got killed in battles.

  • Yes. I was told recently that the Me Me Me approach is popular because it's the only proven way to get ahead. So that's what people do.

  • Yes. 'why can't we all just get along?'

    I think there are more and more greedy, self centred and manipulative people these days. In the past, people HAD to work together or they died. They either starved or were attacked by invaders or killed by animals or met numerous other horrible fates. Without your tribe you had no hope of surviving.

    In modern days, everyone can live their own little lives on their own track separate from everyone else quite happily, without ever needing anyone else. People can even have children without interacting with another person.

    We have become too individual perhaps? We have no common goal to work towards, no one depends on anyone else so everyone is selfish.

  • next nevel

    going subterranean

  • Oh it won't be stopped now. It is up to the custodians of it to continually improve it.

  • we passed the line where it was possible to stop it

    now density of population is undermining any restraints based on sustainability

    the only way is to escape ...from this planet

  • I'm sure I've seen a persuasive backlash to social media because of the reasons you brought up. If I can find the information again I'll drop it in. So far I've been able to put it down to greed, selfishness, inconsideration. 8 billion yes, I thought Covid would be the chaos answer to the exponential growth of our population, it started out that way but we have evolved and protected ourselves. To our detriment or not who knows.

    Our ancestors had to be successful for our own existence. Simpler times still provide lessons for us today in how to live better, if one chooses to do.

  • I don't believe it is easy for NTs to tell either. 1 of many reasons I keep to myself and be as self reliant as possible as i'm in the fortunate position to be able to do that.

  • because there is always few that will see it as an opportunity to get rich at the expense of other

    after all saying that there are people willing to sell their mothers if they can profit on it did not come from nowhere

    and everyone else is affraid of them

    I cannot tell one type from the other, and I keep forgeting about the former's existense falling prey to them over and over again

  • I agree and i realise it sounds a bit naive but why can't people just be nice to each other?

  • I used to have groups of friends when I was young, til I was in my mid twenties. Then they all faded away. Most people I know online are lonely and isolated in real life. The human race is becoming a bunch of individual people with no connections to each other.

    I agree about losing confidence in our species. They are particularly horrible at the moment- obsessed with money, fame, offended by everything, intent on hurting each other. Have they always been like this? How have we survived for so long if so? I think it's because the Earth is overcrowded. The population has doubled in the last 50 years, from 4 billion to 8 billion.

    I watched a documentary about some period in history, I think it was Neolithic. They reckon that humans were very happy then. Their skeletons showed no signs of attack, malnutrition or any other defect, therefore the people didn't have major wars, they ate well and probably lived simple, happy lives. That's what can be deduced anyway. Since then, humans have just got more violent and had more problems.