Trust

I have been thinking about this for a whil now and spent some time noticing how I interact with a variety of people. What I have come to realise more and more is, fundamentally I just don't trust other people! 

With people I've just met I don't trust they will act appropriately, be kind, considerate, non-selfish, etc, etc. Then with people I do know (and especially since getting diagnosed) I just don't believe they are being honest towards me, not judging me behind my back, and ultimately won't let me down and just turn out to be fake. 

I hate to say it, but even with my partner to some extent. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if she said she'd met someone else because I was too much to deal with! Even though at the moment she says she's not bothered about me being Aspie.

What are other people's thoughts, feelings, experience with Trust. Is it something that comes easily or something you struggle with?

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  • Here are my thoughts, Riddler.

    I think you've innocently been swept up by the myth that neurotypicals have created for themselves, namely, that people are inherently trustworthy. It's easy to see why they have this myth; it keeps their neurotypical society functioning (outwardly). They know, as we know, that people are not inherently trustworthy. The evidence to support this is overwhelming. People lie, deceive, cheat, steal as naturally as they breathe. So, if they didn't perpetuate this myth about inherent trustworthiness, their society would fold within 24 hours. Why else do they need a police force and a criminal and legal justice system?

    Trustworthiness is not an inherent characteristic. Trustworthiness is demonstrated through a person's actions and to trust someone, their actions must be consistent over time. 

    I think there is anecdotal evidence that autistic people are more likely to be inherently trustworthy, but I don't know if there is data about this. 

    Neurotypicals have the same myths about love. They think that the moment someone utters those magical three words, I Love You, then this alone is proof of their veracity. Even though everyone knows that thousands of years of evidence points to the contrary being the case. That's why they had to develop a system of legal ownership called 'marriage' to formalise these declarations of love. Marriage was a legal and public attempt to make people declare their commitment to the whole community as an extra layer of security to prevent them form breaking their commitment. Hence why they are referred to as vows within the religious ceremony. Would inherently honest creatures need to make vows to one another to demonstrate their trustworthiness? But even marriage and vows have proven to be ineffective and meaningless over time. 

    So, the presumption of trustworthiness is a faulty one. It's more realistic —at least to me—to presume everyone is untrustworthy until they have proven otherwise. That's a more realistic assumption for me. And I'm much less likely to feel hurt or angry when people behave naturally as opposed to how I am expected to imagine they should behave. 
    It's also a joyful experience when someone earns my trust. They have defied their own nature and that is something to be celebrated. 

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  • Here are my thoughts, Riddler.

    I think you've innocently been swept up by the myth that neurotypicals have created for themselves, namely, that people are inherently trustworthy. It's easy to see why they have this myth; it keeps their neurotypical society functioning (outwardly). They know, as we know, that people are not inherently trustworthy. The evidence to support this is overwhelming. People lie, deceive, cheat, steal as naturally as they breathe. So, if they didn't perpetuate this myth about inherent trustworthiness, their society would fold within 24 hours. Why else do they need a police force and a criminal and legal justice system?

    Trustworthiness is not an inherent characteristic. Trustworthiness is demonstrated through a person's actions and to trust someone, their actions must be consistent over time. 

    I think there is anecdotal evidence that autistic people are more likely to be inherently trustworthy, but I don't know if there is data about this. 

    Neurotypicals have the same myths about love. They think that the moment someone utters those magical three words, I Love You, then this alone is proof of their veracity. Even though everyone knows that thousands of years of evidence points to the contrary being the case. That's why they had to develop a system of legal ownership called 'marriage' to formalise these declarations of love. Marriage was a legal and public attempt to make people declare their commitment to the whole community as an extra layer of security to prevent them form breaking their commitment. Hence why they are referred to as vows within the religious ceremony. Would inherently honest creatures need to make vows to one another to demonstrate their trustworthiness? But even marriage and vows have proven to be ineffective and meaningless over time. 

    So, the presumption of trustworthiness is a faulty one. It's more realistic —at least to me—to presume everyone is untrustworthy until they have proven otherwise. That's a more realistic assumption for me. And I'm much less likely to feel hurt or angry when people behave naturally as opposed to how I am expected to imagine they should behave. 
    It's also a joyful experience when someone earns my trust. They have defied their own nature and that is something to be celebrated. 

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