Terrorism! So now Brexit Gov Says Autistics are Terrorists

Caelus said:

Deepthought said:

slandering them for slandering your own or anyone else’s sensibilities ~ is not treating anyone equally

it sorta is though... side a calls side b fascist so side b then calls side a fascist and thus everyone is equal in what they call each other and thus theres no problems, if side a has a problem with being called fascists then they shouldnt have first called side b fascist shouldnt they?

Two wrongs are not known to make things right though, given that adversity is not equality ~ but rather excessive competition involving increasing aggression; and regressive cooperation involving decreasing compassion ~ plus those ‘eye for an eye and tooth for tooth’ states of affairs are quite infamous for making people more blind to toxic interactions and less able to chew on and digest healthier scenarios; when it would be more pertinent to convert from using the instinctively mimicking ‘I’ to the intuitively adaptive ‘I’ ~ and thereby advance from using rotting wisdom to going onto fruitful wisdom, and all that.

Equality though involves ‘men and women, people of different races, religions, etcetera, all being treated fairly and having the same opportunities’ in the sense of individually living productive and fulfilling lives, without any of that being superior or inferior to one another or better or worse than anyone else.

Deepthought said:

I would suggest firstly that the staggeringly high intensity of the training programs for extremists and terrorists in the education system should at least be lowered then.

Caelus said:

^^ yes.... there should be no teaching of political ideology in schools at all... there should only be fact.... teachers that spread opinion or ideology need to be fired from their jobs. school should be a place of learning and fact. not of indoctrination and opinion spreading. opinions have no place in schools, only facts, the student can make their own opinion up based on the facts they are taught and we shall have a much better society.

Political ideology is not though taught in primary or secondary school education curriculums, although in the secondary education curriculum there is the Citizenship Education Programme, as “should foster pupils’ keen awareness and understanding of democracy, government and how laws are made and upheld.” which is essential and requisite teaching after all.

Colleges and far more often universities include political involvements though, what with people of voting age attending, and the higher education population providing many new potential voters, members and campaigners and all that ~ hence the government and other political parties and campaign movements etcetera being or periodically getting as such involved most particularly at election times.

The actual difficulty is though that children are being pressurised into achieving high qualification results at both primary and secondary schools now, and with teachers being economically forced into pressurising pupils to do well; along with parents getting more desperate or despondent about their children eventually doing well economically also ~ children are more then as a result competitively bullying one another and those more particularly who do not do so well socially.

Deepthought said:

slandering them for slandering your own or anyone else’s sensibilities ~ is not treating anyone equally

it sorta is though... side a calls side b fascist so side b then calls side a fascist and thus everyone is equal in what they call each other and thus theres no problems, if side a has a problem with being called fascists then they shouldnt have first called side b fascist shouldnt they?

"I would suggest firstly that the staggeringly high intensity of the training programs for extremists and terrorists in the education system should at least be lowered then."

^^ yes.... there should be no teaching of political ideology in schools at all... there should only be fact.... teachers that spread opinion or ideology need to be fired from their jobs. school should be a place of learning and fact. not of indoctrination and opinion spreading. opinions have no place in schools, only facts, the student can make their own opinion up based on the facts they are taught and we shall have a much better society.

Turtle said:

Divide and conquer used to be used by empires to colonise them. Now it's used within nations. 

no.... when another nation went to colonise another... that colonising nation was the minority.... because the colonial force can only send a small task force, and thus need divide and conquer to beat the much larger native force.... you think the natives were minorities at first? ....they wasnt... the colonial forces are always the minorities at first because it isnt their land, its the land of another people and thus the natives are larger as its their land where their people live and the colonial forces are but a small task force. you see the colonials always start off as the minority until they finally kill enough and replace enough to secure their place as the majority of the land.

and ofcourse thats where slavery comes in.... we didnt have anywhere near enough willing man power to colonise the americas, and we had barely any man power at all in our colonies so we used slavery to produce the needed manpower to grow the colonies population... thats how it works. 

of which im just saying.... im not for it because i am a isolationist who believes that everyone should keep themselves to themselves. i abhor any kind of colonialism or migration as its called these days. i believe a peaceful world can only be attained if everyone keeps themselves to themselves and stops going out of their way to some other persons lands to cause trouble.

because i shone a light on your racism? 
you thought minority meant 1/3rd of the entire plamet? your race politics are sickening and full of madness.... please, just stop misusing words.... whn minority means nearly every human on the planet it makes my stomach churn with the abuse of the language.... stop calling 99% a minority... its madness...

and if you think white european is such a large amount of the world... you honestly need to travel more lol ... get out of europe... see the world... we are not a majority at all... we barely hold onto majority status in our own homelands where all the other ethnicities have 100% in their lands... our lands are the only place that has to be mixed... that makes us a minority, but you dont see that for this is still our lands and there is still a few of us left here.... but if you leave our lands you will see that we are not a majority at all. go to china... let me guess you think the white man is a majority in china? lol you need to break these illusions and lies you have been told, see the world, ser the global demographics and come back a new man having seen the reality of the population demographics of the world and how the west is a tiny place anyway but yet its no longer our place.... we are insignificant... and perhaps there is some institutional racism if you thought we was somehow big? but yet these lies you have been force fed have made you racist against us, and we are the true minority of the world now. but i guess its ok to be racist against this minority yeah?

Nothing further to say to you. 

Turtle said:

It was when I went to school. Majority = the most, minority = the least ?

ccool, so "black" is no longer a minority as they are one of the largest groups of humans on the entire planet..... native american is a minority as they are pretty small and lost their homeland.... white european is becoming a minority as we are losing our homeland and in the future shall become extinct but thats ok and even when theres but 1 of us left you will still call that a evil majoirity and want to persecute that one remaining person as thats how your critical race theory works, its blunt out racism and hatred against the european man.

Caelus said:

er sorry mate but your the one that brought up minorities...... im just asking what you think a minority is..

Well, when I went to school, a minority meant less than the majority. 

Caelus said:

what do you even think the word means and on a global scale who is the true real minority? .

I'm not sure. Maybe you could tell us ?

Caelus said:

because you seem to be thinking minority means black... but how are they minority when they make up a good third of the global population? thats not a minority lol im just confused by your use of minority...

It was when I went to school. Majority = the most, minority = the least ?

Turtle said:

What is your idea of identity politics ? And what is the racism you're referring to ?How can we bring in all the policies you mentioned for " all poor people " if certain sections are excluded ? Women, LGBTQ, people with a different skin colour, religion ?

they arnt excluded and they never was excluded, you all use them as a political stick to hit people over the head and illegally slander with ,without care for them or how you usig them as a political tool effects their human rights and makes them more hated due to you using them as a weapon... they are all treated equally in our society but your sides use of them as a weapon is putting their place in society under threat with the amount of annoyance it causes, like with all the other good ideas your side is dragging down into the depths with them your also dragging down those peoples human rights down with you too by using them unfairly as a political tool to slander people with. when society isnt against them, they have equal rights, your all just using them as a slander tool to cause chaos and thus you are the true threat to their human rights and future as this alienates everyone else from them when you use them as a weapon... and if you follow marx im pretty sure you should understand that and understand alienation clearly, you know what your doing.... marx covers this topic alot on alienation, your creating alienation and eroding their rights by using them as a political weapon which then alienates society from them makes the problems real and then creates chaos in which your side can use to create a violent revolution which only ends in bloodshed. we need to ditch these 1940s political ideologies.... they are made only for war... they are not healthy..

Turtle said:

Minorities of what ? The colour of your skin ? Why should that be a factor in anything ? Are you racist ? It does sound that way. 

er sorry mate but your the one that brought up minorities...... im just asking what you think a minority is.... what do you even think the word means and on a global scale who is the true real minority? .... because you seem to be thinking minority means black... but how are they minority when they make up a good third of the global population? thats not a minority lol im just confused by your use of minority...

Caelus said:

who are the minorities though? .... give me a world demographic count and then come back with the realisation of who the true minorities now are....

Minorities of what ? The colour of your skin ? Why should that be a factor in anything ? Are you racist ? It does sound that way. 

Caelus said:

and hitler used race and identity politics.... just like the so called modern left are doing....

I explained that above. Are you not reading your replies ?

Caelus said:

just like the so called modern left are doing..... i hate that ***, why cant they ditch all that and then theyd have a solid platform? why cant they stick with their solid ideas of betterment of all poor people and lowering living costs and protecting welfare and making society fairer, and brining in UBI... why cant they just stick with all of that? ... id support all that.... but no, they have to then use all this identity politics nonsense and drag all of that good stuff into the grave with identity politics and ruin those other great ideas by bringing them down with them in the sinking ship of identity politics that most people consider to be racist, as identity politics make everything about race or gender, and that is racist and sexist when they do that, and that alienates people and puts them off their side, and thus it drags down and sullies all those other great ideas they have that could have won them leadership without all this identity stuff. they scored a own goal.... its a shame because they have took so many good ideas down with them.

What is your idea of identity politics ? And what is the racism you're referring to ?How can we bring in all the policies you mentioned for " all poor people " if certain sections are excluded ? Women, LGBTQ, people with a different skin colour, religion ?

Where would the right find their enemies and scapegoats to make you support and vote for them based on your prejudices, knee-jerk reaction, laziness, short-sightedness and fear ?

Hitler and the N@zi party understood this  psychology and propaganda model of fear very clearly. These are historical facts and can be found in The Nuremberg Trials. 

You are somewhat naïve in your thinking and don't appear to have or use any logic. What age are you ?

who are the minorities though? .... give me a world demographic count and then come back with the realisation of who the true minorities now are....

and hitler used race and identity politics.... just like the so called modern left are doing..... i hate that ***, why cant they ditch all that and then theyd have a solid platform? why cant they stick with their solid ideas of betterment of all poor people and lowering living costs and protecting welfare and making society fairer, and brining in UBI... why cant they just stick with all of that? ... id support all that.... but no, they have to then use all this identity politics nonsense and drag all of that good stuff into the grave with identity politics and ruin those other great ideas by bringing them down with them in the sinking ship of identity politics that most people consider to be racist, as identity politics make everything about race or gender, and that is racist and sexist when they do that, and that alienates people and puts them off their side, and thus it drags down and sullies all those other great ideas they have that could have won them leadership without all this identity stuff. they scored a own goal.... its a shame because they have took so many good ideas down with them.

Caelus said:

the people that call themselves left wing socialists, i see them as far ultra right wing fascists that are lying to get their way like adolf hitler did in the 30s when he too called himself a socialists while fronting violent mobs to attack his poltical opponents and bringing in identity politics based on race much like the so called left wing socialists are doing with both race and gender again now..

A fanatic is someone who goes through life with their mouth open and their mind shut. That would apply to anyone on the very extreme end of things no matter what they claim to represent. There are hysterical people on both the left and right and hysterical people who are not interested in politics. You have got to separate and discard all the hype and propaganda in politics to get to the core issue and that can be a long journey for some but when you do that, the main question boils down to who you are in relation to every topic.

The difference between Hitler and those on the left today ( not only those on the left ) was that Hitler was using racism and the demonisation of minorities as a propagandist threat to the majority to gain their support and justification for his own political power and ambitions which included mass murder on an epic scale to achieve them.

Yet somehow you are trying to correlate or associate people of all political persuasions ( not just the left ) trying to protect all minorities including racial minorities, as the same as Hitler and Fascists. That is literally beyond belief and absurd. Why would minority protection or equality be such a threat to anyone ? 

You can tell a lot about a country in how they treat their minorities. 

Divide and conquer used to be used by empires to colonise them. Now it's used within nations. 

im left wing orientated myself though but i am true to the ideology unlike the loud ones that have fronted and taken over the label of left wing socialist. i just confuse it all by using the labels what people claim... the people who i call left wing.. i dont consider them left wing... .they call themselves left wing and socialists, but they are not that... the people that call themselves left wing socialists, i see them as far ultra right wing fascists that are lying to get their way like adolf hitler did in the 30s when he too called himself a socialists while fronting violent mobs to attack his poltical opponents and bringing in identity politics based on race much like the so called left wing socialists are doing with both race and gender again now.... it confuses things because i use the labels what they use.... if i were to brand them with the labels what i think they are, id be calling all this lgbt, corbyn, remainer crowd ultra right wing gestapo fascists instead.

if these people are socialists who call themselves socialist, then why did they reject brexit, the biggest political change, and decided to reject change and stick with tradition, and not only that their main argument was "but the economy!" lol they arnt left wing nor socialist..... they acted based on the economy above the peoples will, which is capitalist of them to do, and they rejected change and voted the way the rich elite and big bankers and tory party itself demanded they vote, again very capitalist. they insulted the working classes and looked down on brexit voters as poor thick and ignorant and of lesser lifestyle and importance. again, very right wing and capitalistic. then they also front violent mobs that claim to be anti-fascist but yet wear black political uniforms and call themselves the black block, much like after the black shirts and even wear red armbands too. be in no mistake those that call themselves left wing socialists are not that what so ever and are instead tricking people. they are pure fascists to the very core.

Caelus said:

i dont get why people keep calling the tories far right.... you know they think autistics are terrorists because they think we are right wing, and they assume right wing means dangerous terrorist due to lefty lies and conditioning that has people thinking a entire political side is terrorist.

As I explained before ~ the fundament principle of socialism is that all people are considered as being equals, and the fundamental principle of capitalism is that all people are considered as having potential and or actual merit.

A blend of both principles of philosophy can be described as either being to some extent quasi-socialism or quasi-capitalism, and a rejection of the fundamental principles in terms of only some individuals being considered equal or having potential and or actual merit ~ can be described as foe-socialism, or foe-capitalism, as being to increasing extents more uncivilised involving therefore more extremism, or ultimately more terrorism.

Also, in terms of describing yourself as not getting why people keep calling the conservatives far right ~ it seems very much that you do not recall having done the same thing regarding socialists as I previously addressed with you on the GB here News (New British News Network) thread, and that you were not aware of making the sweeping derogatory generalisation yourself about left-wing oriented people on this thread also ~ as above.

Such contextual blindness and cognitive dissonance results from verbal or also physical violence during at least childhood to be other than is actually the case ~ such as not autistic, with the programming and conditioning of such violently enforced behaviour diminishing and impeding the receptive mind states, and exaggerating and impairing the protective and the projective states of mind ~ hence the conflicted ideologies and contradictory behaviourisms thing.    

Far more terrorism is committed by the far left these days, such as Antifa, but for some reason they get a free pass to burn down as many buildings and physically intimidate and attack as many people as they like.

Not sure what this has to do with Brexit. The vast majority of autistic people are law abiding citizens, but in the wrong circumstances autistic people are probably easier to radicalise. There is no denying that, but it's no reason to treat all autistic people as criminals.

Autistic people get obsessed with a topic and don't have the usual social norms to stop them from researching things they shouldn't be researching (such as Wahhabist or extreme interpretations of the Quran, or things relating to conspiracy theories).

There is a lot wrong with the world, so it's easy to get radicalised when you have black and white thinking and start noticing things. It just depends what information you get exposed to. This is even more true when you don't have regular contact with "normal" people to keep you grounded. Autistic people can often be quite isolated.

So it's easy for a Muslim in his bedroom or a white nationalist in his bedroom to become a terrorist. Part of it is a way to deal with the feelings of powerlessness - the inability to change the things one perceives as horrible can lead people down a dark path.

Autistic people can also lead to great things when given the appropriate outlet (sciences/computers/engineering or any project that benefits from intense focus on details).

doesnt matter who paid for it... whop pays for your toast in the morning? the blood sweat and tears of african slaves being whipped right now to put the food on your plate....

the only people that wanted brexit were mostly the northern poor working class, all of which are the labour main voter base. we had enough of big beurocracy..... who told you to vote remain? david cameron and his tory party, the bank of england, all the big business that was worried brexit would harm their big 10 billion per day profits but yet they dont even pay their staff a tiny fraction of their profits.

all this whining about who funded brexit, it doesnt matter, who would have funded it? fucking no one would have so you have to take money wherever it comes from... who funded remain? every single rich institution in the entire globe.... and they even got cheat back handers and allowed our money to be illegally spent on more than doubling the allowed budget for them in the 9 million cost leaflet drops that they acted like children about and crossed their fingers and said it doesnt count, despite more than double blowing the budget allowance and using OUR OWN money to do it... it was a disgrace and the only way they got away with that is because they are the government and they set the laws and rules and put themselves above it. they cheated for remain. then they *** flipped to brexit side to retain power when they realised they lost because they obviously put remaining in power above any agenda they had because if you retain power you can still control the country and force it back on your track again. tories are remainers, they always was. we never had a true representative of brexit and what we wanted, because we havw no institution to back us, we have no rich elite, we are just peasant rebelion and so we had to take whatever we got from wherever even if its from our enemies, even if its having to have the remainer tories still be in power, because we dont have institution, we are too low down for that. so we have no choice but to take whatever we get even if its still having the other side that went against our campaign in power. peasants never have the luxury of having actual representation in politics.

unless we actually take to actual violent rebelion and get rid of the political elite, but no doubt youd all call that a coup and evil while backing the rich institutions and elite and thus taking their side again and forever keeping the rich knee to the throat of the common masses while we cannot breathe! you all call for socialism and a communist rebelion, but when we give you one you abandon it and take the side of the rich elite capitalists and call change evil... typical....which i think proves something that peterson guy said true, if you was germans in 30s germany youd all take hitlers side... not because your evil, but because you all follow that trend of doing whatever your told by big tech, government and institutions and so easily abandon any revolutionary change or anti-government ideals you had.

Well to be fair it did start with "why are so many autistic children being labelled as terrorists" , which is a very scary and worrying fact and not a mindless conspiracy theory .