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They probably would have called the civil rights movement 'woke' if the term existed back then. The same for the sufragettes, and those who fought for an end to the persecution of gay people. I dare say the recognition that those of us with mental health and mental illness issues now have is partly the result if progressive/woke people who worked to change the things about society they didn't like, the rules they didn't agree with.

It wasn't woke people who made the rules. It was the like of Murdoch, the likes of Andrew Neil and others in the media who helped dictate how people were treated, who helped decide the language with which people were referred to. And now there's a dawning culture or respect and recognition for people's differences the likes of Neil want to treat it as a bad thing. 

What have the right wingers like Neil done for society? What have angry, reactionary, right wingers done for the world?

I'm not 'woke' but I know which side is more likely to take us forward as a society and which side is more likely to take us backwards. And it certainly isn't the old red faced potatriot going on about how 'You can't say anything anymore!'. 

Oh, and while he's playing it off as being about countering the 'mainstream' 'left' media now, HE WAS PART OF IT UNTIL JUST A YEAR OR SO AGO. If it was so bad, so left-wing, so terribly PC why did he stick around so long? Why did he work for the BBC, of all organisations?

Because he's a fraud looking to take your money by selling you ads in between bits about what immigrants are getting that you're not and a segment from Katie Hopkins about how masks are useless and as long as you walk round with your head stuck up your own **** you needn't worry about catching Covid!

We need to be better than this. Men like Neil seek to profit from the divides in our society, not heal them. GB News will not bring the country together, it will drive us further apart. The ONLY THING keeping the 'Elites' in power is US. 

The sooner we stop letting these rats turn us against each other, arguing about who the biggest shits are, the sooner we can stop them flushing us all down the bog.

That 100,000 death toll is made up of all kinds. Black, white, rich, poor, right, left. The one thing they all have in common is a government and a system that doesn't give a *** about them.

the right isnt angry.... the left is angry, if you say anything they will scream at you and seek to end your life.... thta is angry... the right isnt angry, infact im rather left win in my ideology and lifestyle, but yet i found more acceptance and tolerance in the right than the left... the left is full of bitter hate and bile and they dont tolerate anything at all, all you find on lefty servers and sites is white men and white women, because they are not tolerant, they cannot tolerate any other view of anyone at all but themselves..... i enter right wing server and there is a massive diverse amount of people even muslims there are tolerated that say they hate the west and pointing out how its depraved and collapsing now..... funny the right is more tolerant and can tolerate enemies and the opinion of enemies in their spaces and discuss with them... the left cannot tolerate anyone but the very few privileged elite white rich boys....

Common that's nonsense, you know a good person from a bad one. That's all. 

to the mods that seem to be covering up the fact the *** were socialists.... why do you do that? .... you have no evidence otherwise and it makes you look like your covering up nazism of your own and trying to desperately fight for nazism to come back and get another go at it.... the *** were socialist, it was in their name and they wanted to topple capitalism because they attributed it to a people they hated that they went against.... why do you have to defend socialism like that? ..... i mean just because one person did bad in its name doesnt mean its all bad so why try gatekeep it and ignore real history which only makes you become like some sort of holocaust denier? 

whatever, put me on your list and kill me when the time to take your mask off comes.... i dont care, i see through your mask. a true socialist wouldnt care that the *** were socialist, a nazi socialist who wants to bring nazism back would do though as they desperately want to come back under cover yet again.

they also hated colonialism too and planned to kick the europeans out of america and give the americas back to the natives. same with parts of africa aside from having to make exceptions for their ally italy whom they didnt even respect but had to tolerate to use as a ally/useful idiot for their goals. this anti-colonialism is very much the same attitude of the modern day socialists. everything comes together and is very clear when you piece it all together. but im not gonna argue it, i said enough, open your own eyes, or if your willingly a nazi like i said just put my name down on your list of people you will wipe out when your guys make their move...

Caelus said:

strasserist socialist. look it up....

I had already factored them and all the others into making my previous response.

Caelus said:

yeah hitler betrayed them but they were still nazi socialists.... they still existed.... and todays modern western socialists are socialists that have a hatred for jews...

You are referring to foe-socialism ~ where individuals are not respected or treated as equals, and foe-capitalism ~ where individuals are not respected or treated as having potential or actual merit.

When members of right or left wing political affiliations mistake morals for ethics and fight against one and the other regarding their differences ~ society like as if an Eagle will not as such fly and achieve in the meantime greater evolutional heights. 

strasserist socialist. look it up.... yeah hitler betrayed them but they were still nazi socialists.... they still existed.... and todays modern western socialists are socialists that have a hatred for jews...

You are quite correct Deepthought. Hitler hated Communism and saw it as a threat. They were amongst the first group to be targeted along with all political opponents, those on the left and before even the Jewish people. Some of them were targeted before they got into power. 

Hitler was as much Socialist as Stalin was a Communist. Both were dreadful tyrants using those ideologies, that were popular at the time with the public to create their own empires. 

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CLAIM: The n-a-z-i-s were socialists.

VERDICT: While their name did include the word “socialist”, their policies and treatment of left-wing opponents show they were not socialists in any meaningful sense.

Multiple posts on social media have claimed that the Nazi party were socialists, due to their full name—the National Socialist Worker's Party. 

This argument has been used to attack socialism through association with Nazi policies. It has also led to confusion, as Nazism is normally associated with fascism and far-right-wing views.

Historians have regularly disavowed claims that Hitler adhered to socialist ideology. Historian Richard Evans wrote of the n-a-z-i-s’ incorporation of socialist into their name in 1920, “Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism…. Nazism was in some ways an extreme counter-ideology to socialism”. Or as simply put by historian and Hitler expert Ian Kershaw, "Hitler was never a socialist."

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***The post you responded to has now been deleted ***

CLAIM: The n-a-z-i-s were socialists.

VERDICT: While their name did include the word “socialist”, their policies and treatment of left-wing opponents show they were not socialists in any meaningful sense.

Multiple posts on social media have claimed that the Nazi party were socialists, due to their full name—the National Socialist Worker's Party. 

This argument has been used to attack socialism through association with Nazi policies. It has also led to confusion, as Nazism is normally associated with fascism and far-right-wing views.

Historians have regularly disavowed claims that Hitler adhered to socialist ideology. Historian Richard Evans wrote of the n-a-z-i-s’ incorporation of socialist into their name in 1920, “Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism…. Nazism was in some ways an extreme counter-ideology to socialism”. Or as simply put by historian and Hitler expert Ian Kershaw, "Hitler was never a socialist."

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to the mods that seem to be covering up the fact the *** were socialists.... why do you do that? .... you have no evidence otherwise and it makes you look like your covering up nazism of your own and trying to desperately fight for nazism to come back and get another go at it.... the *** were socialist, it was in their name and they wanted to topple capitalism because they attributed it to a people they hated that they went against.... why do you have to defend socialism like that? ..... i mean just because one person did bad in its name doesnt mean its all bad so why try gatekeep it and ignore real history which only makes you become like some sort of holocaust denier? 

whatever, put me on your list and kill me when the time to take your mask off comes.... i dont care, i see through your mask. a true socialist wouldnt care that the *** were socialist, a nazi socialist who wants to bring nazism back would do though as they desperately want to come back under cover yet again.

they also hated colonialism too and planned to kick the europeans out of america and give the americas back to the natives. same with parts of africa aside from having to make exceptions for their ally italy whom they didnt even respect but had to tolerate to use as a ally/useful idiot for their goals. this anti-colonialism is very much the same attitude of the modern day socialists. everything comes together and is very clear when you piece it all together. but im not gonna argue it, i said enough, open your own eyes, or if your willingly a nazi like i said just put my name down on your list of people you will wipe out when your guys make their move...

Caelus said:

strasserist socialist. look it up....

I had already factored them and all the others into making my previous response.

Caelus said:

yeah hitler betrayed them but they were still nazi socialists.... they still existed.... and todays modern western socialists are socialists that have a hatred for jews...

You are referring to foe-socialism ~ where individuals are not respected or treated as equals, and foe-capitalism ~ where individuals are not respected or treated as having potential or actual merit.

When members of right or left wing political affiliations mistake morals for ethics and fight against one and the other regarding their differences ~ society like as if an Eagle will not as such fly and achieve in the meantime greater evolutional heights. 

strasserist socialist. look it up.... yeah hitler betrayed them but they were still nazi socialists.... they still existed.... and todays modern western socialists are socialists that have a hatred for jews...

You are quite correct Deepthought. Hitler hated Communism and saw it as a threat. They were amongst the first group to be targeted along with all political opponents, those on the left and before even the Jewish people. Some of them were targeted before they got into power. 

Hitler was as much Socialist as Stalin was a Communist. Both were dreadful tyrants using those ideologies, that were popular at the time with the public to create their own empires.