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Victim shameing

NAS71410 (Mat, he him)

I am on a course understanding autism level 2, and found this;

One major difference from other individuals with autism is that those with HFA and Asperger syndrome usually want to be involved with other people; they just don’t know how to go about it. They may have problems understanding the emotions of others and struggle to understand facial expressions or non-verbal communication. This can lead to them being teased and they can often feel like social outcasts which, in turn, can lead to depression and anxiety.

This is victim shaming autistic people for the treatment they receive at the hands of NT and quite jarring to see it a part of education course.

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  • That doesn't sound like victim shaming to me, not in any way, it's simply trying to explain why some ND people get teased or bullied. They're not saying it's the ND persons fault that they're teased or bullied, it's simply an explanation. In fact I read it as quite the opposite, that they're blaming the person doing the teasing, ultimately making the ND person feel unwanted. And it's true in some cases. Some (not all) ND people have trouble reading other people. This leaves them open to unscrupulous people taking advantage, whether that's by teasing them, bullying them, scamming them, or whatever. It's not their fault, the fault lies with the unscrupulous people. I do think that sometimes we can be a bit too sensitive to things, read or see things that aren't really there....

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  • That doesn't sound like victim shaming to me, not in any way, it's simply trying to explain why some ND people get teased or bullied. They're not saying it's the ND persons fault that they're teased or bullied, it's simply an explanation. In fact I read it as quite the opposite, that they're blaming the person doing the teasing, ultimately making the ND person feel unwanted. And it's true in some cases. Some (not all) ND people have trouble reading other people. This leaves them open to unscrupulous people taking advantage, whether that's by teasing them, bullying them, scamming them, or whatever. It's not their fault, the fault lies with the unscrupulous people. I do think that sometimes we can be a bit too sensitive to things, read or see things that aren't really there....

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  • in reply to Deleted user

    True.

    I think the other operative word here is also 'may', it's not saying everyone with autism has all of those issues, but could have one or more of them.

    What does it go on to say? Does the document then point out the range of experience?

    Personally, I may not "read" or always anticipate other people's feeling that well, so miss the cues sometimes, but I understand them when folks choose to talk to me about them.

    If I think about my closest friendships, (and I've been doing that quite a bit of late; trying to work out why I get on so well with some people whilst other encounters are a disaster area and I certainly was viciously bullied for being different at school), they were built on one on one conversation, where we are both open and verbally explicit about what we feel and why. I also met them in contexts where small talk was not really required.