Victim shameing

If it’s in a training programme designed to help people on the speccy then I’m sure it’s not meant to be shaming anyone and to me it doesn’t seem to be shaming anyone

I would say that that's probably written from an NT's perspective. People with HFA and Aspergers have social anxiety a lot of times, so that influences how they behave around others, and because they are nervous and might be really focused on themselves and what they should be saying and doing, they may miss out on social cues. 

True.

I think the other operative word here is also 'may', it's not saying everyone with autism has all of those issues, but could have one or more of them.

What does it go on to say? Does the document then point out the range of experience?

Personally, I may not "read" or always anticipate other people's feeling that well, so miss the cues sometimes, but I understand them when folks choose to talk to me about them.

If I think about my closest friendships, (and I've been doing that quite a bit of late; trying to work out why I get on so well with some people whilst other encounters are a disaster area and I certainly was viciously bullied for being different at school), they were built on one on one conversation, where we are both open and verbally explicit about what we feel and why. I also met them in contexts where small talk was not really required.

That doesn't sound like victim shaming to me, not in any way, it's simply trying to explain why some ND people get teased or bullied. They're not saying it's the ND persons fault that they're teased or bullied, it's simply an explanation. In fact I read it as quite the opposite, that they're blaming the person doing the teasing, ultimately making the ND person feel unwanted. And it's true in some cases. Some (not all) ND people have trouble reading other people. This leaves them open to unscrupulous people taking advantage, whether that's by teasing them, bullying them, scamming them, or whatever. It's not their fault, the fault lies with the unscrupulous people. I do think that sometimes we can be a bit too sensitive to things, read or see things that aren't really there....

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OK, so I disagree with the quote from your document.

that is a quote from the document i am reading,

No you said people on the spectrum couldn't understand people's emotions. I said I could understand people's emotions, but as they were too intense for me I chose who's eyes to look into. 

my point princely

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Hi I feel like I see too much emotion in other people's eyes. So I don't like to look at everyone's eyes cos I get really overwhelmed. 

The only girls eyes I looked at, at college ended up manipulating me, I'm not sure she knew I was on the spectrum but she was trying to get away with all sorts. 

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