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Asperger Syndrome should be replaced by Grunya or Sukareva Syndrome

NAS69295

A Russian Jewish child Psychiatrist wrote notes on Autism in 1925 nineteen years before Hans Asperger.   Her name was GRUNYA SUKHAREVA..  Calling it Asperger Syndrome is not even accurate as Hans Asperger discovered it nineteen years later.  He probably read what she wrote but did not mention it as he was a member of the Nazi party so he could not admit a Jew had discovered it nineteen years earlier and by 1944 Germany was at war with Russia.  We should call it either GRUNYA OR SUKHAREVA SYNDROME AFTER HER.  It would not be any more difficult to pronounce than Asperger or sound any stranger.  Hans Asperger was a member of the Nazi party accused of sending disabled children to be murdered in Vienna as the *** were great believers in  EUTHANASIA for disabled people.  The *** did not only murder Jews they also murdered lots of disabled people Gypsies Gay people.

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  •  I mean Aspergers has been depreciated as a term anyway in favour of other terms like autism spectrum disorder.

  • in reply to Peter

    Only in the US that uses DSM. AS exists in ICD-10 that is still current. It technically exists as a distinct condition in ICD-11.

  • in reply to Arran

    The US was the first to get rid of the term Asperger long before it came out that Hans Asperger helped with the Euthanasia policy.  Here in London, the NAS changed the name from Asperger United to Spectrum of a magazine because Hans Asperger was discovered to be complicit in the murder of disabled people.  The term Asperger in the US was got rid of in DSM5 but other countries continued to use it.  The rest of the world is following the US so the term Asperger would have gone without the controversy as they want to make Autism one spectrum.  The problem with that how does one label people with Autistic traits who are not really Autistic?  Some of those could really be brain damaged and not really Autistic.  I fell out of a pram when I was a baby and had a difficult birth. I have perception problems which means I cannot recognize people and I get lost.  In 1976 a Psychiatrist said I was mildly Autistic that is how I came to have the label, Asperger.  I expect they are going back to the label mildly Autistic.

  • in reply to NAS69295

    I have not heard of this one before. You might just be a one-off exception.

    Over the years I have encountered numerous people who were referred to psychologists in the 1980s and early 1990s that were later (after 1995ish) diagnosed with AS but none of them had previously been diagnosed with any form of autism.

    Published literature from the 1970s about mild autism as the precursor to what (after 1991) became recognised as Asperger Syndrome is scant. There was no evidence that AS was being co-discovered slowly and gradually in Britain.

    People with AS most definitely are not brain damaged.

  • in reply to Arran

    No they were aware that people could be Autistic with few traits in 1966 a Psychiatrist wanted to send me to an Autistic school.

    My Mother refused to send me to one as she did not believe I was Autistic. I went to the local Primiary.

    I was told in 2009 that a Psychiatrist put on my notes in 1976 that I have mild Autism so that is why the NHS considers me to have Asperger Syndrome. In 1976 mild Autism was the equivalent to Asperger Syndrome.  A family therapist said that I am as I am not because I was not brought up severely enough but because I have Asperger Syndrome in answer to my Father.  I asked in 2009 how the family therapist knew that I have Asperger Syndrome.  The GP explained that she must have gone by the notes of mild Autism written in 1976.  We have gone full circle and they will probably use words like Mild Autism Hight Functioning Autism Autistic Traits.  The last one i think is the best as many Asperger people were not really Autistic but brain-damaged.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Now that the US has adopted ICD-10 then I wouldn't be surprised if Asperger Syndrome is restored for DSM-6. More money for the APA!

  • in reply to NAS69295

    Wrong, The NAS took advantage of DSM-5 and the findings about Hans Asperger in 2018 in order to get out of Asperger syndrome because they fully well knew that they provided a lousy service for people with the condition.

    The truth is that the NAS is a government service provider more than a charity, and they are only interested in children who meet the criteria for NAS run schools and anybody who requires residential care services, because there is plenty of public money for this but none for people with AS.

    Autism was ruled out for me before I found out about AS. The same situation applied to other people with AS I have encountered over the years. Referring to AS as mild autism only appeared (in Britain at least) after AS became known about in the early 1990s, and did not happen in the 1970s.

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  • in reply to NAS69295

    Wrong, The NAS took advantage of DSM-5 and the findings about Hans Asperger in 2018 in order to get out of Asperger syndrome because they fully well knew that they provided a lousy service for people with the condition.

    The truth is that the NAS is a government service provider more than a charity, and they are only interested in children who meet the criteria for NAS run schools and anybody who requires residential care services, because there is plenty of public money for this but none for people with AS.

    Autism was ruled out for me before I found out about AS. The same situation applied to other people with AS I have encountered over the years. Referring to AS as mild autism only appeared (in Britain at least) after AS became known about in the early 1990s, and did not happen in the 1970s.

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  • in reply to NAS69295

    I have not heard of this one before. You might just be a one-off exception.

    Over the years I have encountered numerous people who were referred to psychologists in the 1980s and early 1990s that were later (after 1995ish) diagnosed with AS but none of them had previously been diagnosed with any form of autism.

    Published literature from the 1970s about mild autism as the precursor to what (after 1991) became recognised as Asperger Syndrome is scant. There was no evidence that AS was being co-discovered slowly and gradually in Britain.

    People with AS most definitely are not brain damaged.

  • in reply to Arran

    No they were aware that people could be Autistic with few traits in 1966 a Psychiatrist wanted to send me to an Autistic school.

    My Mother refused to send me to one as she did not believe I was Autistic. I went to the local Primiary.

    I was told in 2009 that a Psychiatrist put on my notes in 1976 that I have mild Autism so that is why the NHS considers me to have Asperger Syndrome. In 1976 mild Autism was the equivalent to Asperger Syndrome.  A family therapist said that I am as I am not because I was not brought up severely enough but because I have Asperger Syndrome in answer to my Father.  I asked in 2009 how the family therapist knew that I have Asperger Syndrome.  The GP explained that she must have gone by the notes of mild Autism written in 1976.  We have gone full circle and they will probably use words like Mild Autism Hight Functioning Autism Autistic Traits.  The last one i think is the best as many Asperger people were not really Autistic but brain-damaged.