Is giving in to medication a weakness?

I'd be careful - taking things that affect who you are means you would not be yourself.      I was put on antidepressants many years ago and I remember just walking around in a fog - you can't be depressed because you can't be anything - life becomes a blur of existence.    I hated it.

It's absolutely not like fixing a broken leg.

Homeopathy really is just a scam - at best, it's a placebo.    Many people believe in it but people also believe in UFOs and ghosts.

Herbal effects can be marginal - at least increasing the margins for Holland & Barrett - 99% profit margins.    Again - some people 'believe' but don't understand the dosing levels that you'd actually need - the classic is Turmeric - you need to eat pounds of it every day to have any measurable effect.

You'd probably do better knowing more about the way your ASD actually affects you and then engineer your life to be kinder to yourself.

Just wondering why you jump in and criticize and put words in my mouth .I didn't say fixing a broken leg .

you have done that several times now . [ do you realize you are doing it?]

i suppose its a nt status thing .

Hi - sorry if you took it that way - it wasn't intended - but a broken leg is real and needs pain relief.  

Stress and anxiety are self-created and so just walking away from the source of stress would stop the stress and anxiety.

Most ASD people are so tied up with their symptoms that they are totally blind to the cause of those symptoms.

BTW - I'm not NT - I'm very, very Asperger's.

If I had unlimited money, it would only a total lack of imagination that would be any stress - every problem can be engineered out - a wonderful life.

I've been seriously ill for many years and they've tried them on me - Beta blockers just felt like a broken accelerator cable - no go when needed    Tranx just messed me up in lots of ways.

I've come to the conclusion that all of them are just like painting over rust on a car - you're not fixing anything, just modifying the symptoms - and maybe adding a load of side effects too for a giggle.

It's root cause analysis that's required - and maybe some difficult decisions.

I don't believe taking pills is a weakness - just something you need to go into with your eyes wide open.

Absolutely 100% believe, like you, that it is not a weakness. I tried without pills for 6 months and was soon back in hospital. For me, they have helped. Like my Core Values, I believe it's about balance.

They do say" Money the root of all evil", it does give you more choice ,but the making of the choices is the hard part,  again anxiety.

Just take children, give them everything they want, everything they ask for . see how they turn out.

I have seen more pain through the love of money than the lack of it ,and more kindness though the lack of it than the love of it.

Brings it all back to balance.

Going back to the original point ,not all meds make you dopey, beta blockers ,serotonin can be useful, 

I would agree with you that the over use of tranquilizers is wide spread and common ,but i still maintain the use of medication is not a weakness  

Give me a pile of cash and I'll try that experiment for you - I'm pretty confidant that I can eliminate all stress from people's lives. 

I think maybe in terms of autistic triggers you can minimise them. But you can't eradicate anxiety completely from life. That's unrealistic! 

Yes the triggers are your own reaction to it that is the secret ,[you can't escape your self ],that is the problem i have a very low tolerance ,i am fine with my children and wife ,really laided back and understanding .When i was young my mum would say you can't care about everything but i do .  Selfishness ,greed  etc in people do really annoy me.i suppose that is partly down to lack of empathy. 

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But as soon as you "walk away" from it, something else will come along to take its place.

Why?     That's rather pessimistic.    If you truly understand your triggers you can create a life that erases or minimises them.    It may be a shepherd on an island or a hobo on a beach or carving wood for a living - but if you deal with the problem, there are no symptoms.

So even when you want to get away from it, you can't.  

I used to go walking on the tops near my house, it was bliss, just a handful of dog walkers on a busy day. Then a tea shed popped up and now the world and his wife are there every weekend, dropping litter and driving their cars up so they can have a brew with a view.

I've learned through CBT you can't eradicate anxiety and stress, you just have to learn to tolerate it. 

In response to Plastic you can walk away from stress and anxiety and I think it's useful if you can make changes which have a posite impact on your life.  But as soon as you "walk away" from it, something else will come along to take its place.

Sorry to hear you're in that situation.    It would annoy me to see abused animals.   I would feel compelled to act.

It is possible to just walk away from all stress and anxiety - but obviously, there are consequences to every decision - it all depends on your ability to accept those consequences - whether they be financial or spiritual.

Yes re-jigging your life to reduce anxiety is better.

I live in the middle of no-where . i have 16 acres and live in the middle ,the nearest house is 1/2 a mile away ,the next house is 1 mile away.

Yet i see the sheep neglected in the field next to me ,14 are on 3 feet with foot rot ,a couple have died and there carcasses are left. I see the 300 year old oak that has been cut 3/4 through the trunk so the wind brings it down .Then the farmer cuts it up for there eco boiler 

In this society it is so hard to escape  stress, perhaps it is just me .

Yes re-jigging your life to reduce anxiety is better.

I live in the middle of no-where . i have 16 acres and live in the middle ,the nearest house is 1/2 a mile away ,the next house is 1 mile away.

Yet i see the sheep neglected in the field next to me ,14 are on 3 feet with foot rot ,a couple have died and there carcasses are left. I see the 300 year old oak that has been cut 3/4 through the trunk so the wind brings it down .Then the farmer cuts it up for there eco boiler 

In this society it is so hard to escape  stress, perhaps it is just me .

If I had unlimited money, it would only a total lack of imagination that would be any stress - every problem can be engineered out - a wonderful life.

I've been seriously ill for many years and they've tried them on me - Beta blockers just felt like a broken accelerator cable - no go when needed    Tranx just messed me up in lots of ways.

I've come to the conclusion that all of them are just like painting over rust on a car - you're not fixing anything, just modifying the symptoms - and maybe adding a load of side effects too for a giggle.

It's root cause analysis that's required - and maybe some difficult decisions.

I don't believe taking pills is a weakness - just something you need to go into with your eyes wide open.

Absolutely 100% believe, like you, that it is not a weakness. I tried without pills for 6 months and was soon back in hospital. For me, they have helped. Like my Core Values, I believe it's about balance.

They do say" Money the root of all evil", it does give you more choice ,but the making of the choices is the hard part,  again anxiety.

Just take children, give them everything they want, everything they ask for . see how they turn out.

I have seen more pain through the love of money than the lack of it ,and more kindness though the lack of it than the love of it.

Brings it all back to balance.

Going back to the original point ,not all meds make you dopey, beta blockers ,serotonin can be useful, 

I would agree with you that the over use of tranquilizers is wide spread and common ,but i still maintain the use of medication is not a weakness  

Give me a pile of cash and I'll try that experiment for you - I'm pretty confidant that I can eliminate all stress from people's lives. 

I think maybe in terms of autistic triggers you can minimise them. But you can't eradicate anxiety completely from life. That's unrealistic! 

Yes the triggers are your own reaction to it that is the secret ,[you can't escape your self ],that is the problem i have a very low tolerance ,i am fine with my children and wife ,really laided back and understanding .When i was young my mum would say you can't care about everything but i do .  Selfishness ,greed  etc in people do really annoy me.i suppose that is partly down to lack of empathy. 

Unknown said:

But as soon as you "walk away" from it, something else will come along to take its place.

Why?     That's rather pessimistic.    If you truly understand your triggers you can create a life that erases or minimises them.    It may be a shepherd on an island or a hobo on a beach or carving wood for a living - but if you deal with the problem, there are no symptoms.

So even when you want to get away from it, you can't.  

I used to go walking on the tops near my house, it was bliss, just a handful of dog walkers on a busy day. Then a tea shed popped up and now the world and his wife are there every weekend, dropping litter and driving their cars up so they can have a brew with a view.

I've learned through CBT you can't eradicate anxiety and stress, you just have to learn to tolerate it. 

In response to Plastic you can walk away from stress and anxiety and I think it's useful if you can make changes which have a posite impact on your life.  But as soon as you "walk away" from it, something else will come along to take its place.

Sorry to hear you're in that situation.    It would annoy me to see abused animals.   I would feel compelled to act.

It is possible to just walk away from all stress and anxiety - but obviously, there are consequences to every decision - it all depends on your ability to accept those consequences - whether they be financial or spiritual.