a woman doesn't clean up after her dog

i see the dog, she's watching the dog, the dog takes a dump in a park. she doesn't bother cleaning it up. she continues on her way. actually, after this happened i notice a doggie bag station between the lady and her dog....

so - that kind of ruins my walk. i'm angry i couldn't mention to her, say, "excuse me nice lady... i think your dog (fill in your favorite bathroom term, past tense, i guess)."  so i'm angry at me and my short comings, but i guess i gotta live with them. i don't need to get into a big altercation, and, as an aspie, this aspie gets all angry and flustered, when NT's would maintain their cool, which is a huge negative (for me). so, i just swallow my feelings. i walk back the way i came. i don't feel like being around there.

and then i'm angry that there are people like this, that while i'm enjoying the sunset and the walk, in my favorite spot to walk, and they mess it up (literally). my therapist has commented that aspies can be really SENSITIVE --- i guess sensitive to things NT's, with their thick skins, have no problem with.   i guess i'm talking being really sensitive to things, such as simple bad behavior...  and that kind of ruining your day. i guess this can happen a little to NT's, but i'm guessing aspies can be much more negatively affected.

i'm noticing these small things that seem to affect me much more than i thought.... and possibly stay with me for awhile. i think a lot of it has to do with me expecting everyone to follow the rules...and getting upset when they don't.

anyone else relate to this?

(sorry if this post is kind of repetitive, etc... hard for me to organize my thoughts on this.)

  • Yes, these things affect me too, and I think it is from what I have heard described as "an overdeveloped sense of fairness" as well as the inability to comprehend why someone can't follow simple rules like everyone else.

    Sadly there are some really selfish, thoughtless people around.  Even if you do manage to confront them, they can get aggressive and even violent.  It is safer not to say anything, I find.  This sort of thing does leave a lasting feeling of anger though, that really ruins the day.  You are not the only one.

  • Of course, social rules are as clear and visible as breathing oxygen and expelling carbon dioxide.

  • Given the chance - my dog will eat cats, head fist and whole. Unless the cat is a particularly hard bastad.

    On the shite thing - cats will shite all over the place. So if you want to grow your own, forget it unless you like the though of cat spray on your salad leaves. So the only way is to cage off all your veggies, which harms other wildlife. Surely the neaighbour with cats is responsible for the cost of a fruit and veg cage. The simple fact is - the cat is fair game if it is in my garden. The dog will eat the whole thing, bones, fur, skull - the lot. With no evidence left whatsoever.

  • Aspies break unwritten social rules of behaviour because they are unaware of their very existence

    There are social rules.... ? Thinking

    Damn. 

  • When it comes to NTs, aspies and rule breaking, I see it like this.

    Aspies obey written rules which NTs couldn't care a rat's *** about.

    Aspies break unwritten social rules of behaviour because they are unaware of their very existence.  NTs obey these unwritten rules instinctively.

  • I agree and I have 2 cats. I sometimes think I want a dog though when I’m on one of my long walks. Not sure if i could handle the extra responsibility long term though.

  • i'm kind of theorizing that what you are saying is aspie-related... this adherence, or over-adherence, to rules. i think it can get in the way of just being around people. after all, if that person is doing something that is against the rules or just stupid - why do you have to get upset over it? i'm using you in a general sense in the previous sentence.

    i think NT's generally have an advantage here... they could give a rat's behind, whereas we might be upset for the rest of the day.

  • I relate to what you're saying, and for me I think it's struggling with the disregard of correct protocol. I don't know if anyone else recognises this, but I strictly adhere to rules and really struggle with people who don't.  People not wearing masks; people who drop litter etc. and I'll allow it to pray on my mind.

    It's the injustice in the situation that effects me.

  •  i guess i'm talking being really sensitive to things, such as simple bad behavior...  and that kind of ruining your day.

    Yes. 

    Since lockdown I'm watching everyone like a hawk - facemasks slipping down over noses and people not doing the social distancing thing really bug me. Fortunately I'm at home being self-sufficient most of the time so my exposure to the rest of the world is limited.

    Apart from the day when some clown rattled my letterbox to try and get me to switch my energy provider. The same letterbox that has a sign on that expressly tells people if they're not invited then they're not welcome. Answering the door because I thought it was a delivery I had the ID flashed in my face and a whole preloaded  sales script dumped on my brain before I had any clue of what was going on. 

    Took me around 3 days to get over that.

  • hi aidie, yes.........trying.  at this point just trying to figure out the limitations of asd, sensitivities, etc... there's a place, the star center, in colorado... will be checking them out. they specialize in sensory processing disorder. 

    have a good weekend!

  • your reflections are helping u change and grow

  • correct on the very nasty parasite Toxocariasis 

  • appreciate the replies...  i'm trying to point out (i guess the fact that) we who lose our tempers (meltdowns) are at a huge disadvantage socially. it's another way we're second class citizens. so wondering how people feel about this, deal with it, etc.. i guess i get small victories here and there, but there's always the chance of a melt when under pressure. (just ask my stupid doctor, sorry doc, btw)

    i think it's about managing all the small stresses of the hour, day, week, month, to try to manage the temper outbursts. to ... i think some refer to it as resiliency??  like,,, basically you want resilliance in the face of stresses. i'm guessing one way to do this is by avoidance - avoid stresses you no you're weak at, build up your resilience thru health, etc..., so when stresses come, hopefully you'll be more resilient, less melting. so this is acknowledging that some stressors can really affect you.

    and rigid over adherence to rules (me getting so upset over the stupid lady) is a stressor.......imho.

    i shouldn't be calling people names, but i'm trying to do it............ ironically.

  • exactly. maybe your assessment can help clarify these awful situations...... we're at a huge disadvantage. once you lose your temper, the other person can toy with you. basically like a cat toys with a mouse. that's about the size of it.

  • Animal faeces can contain Toxocariasis (a parasitic roundworm).  The dog worm is called Toxocara canis and the cat worm is called Toxocara cati which can pass to people and cause organ damage including blindness.

    Anyone who fails to clear up after their dog can be issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice of up to £100. If the case goes to court this could cost the owner or person in charge of the animal up to £1,000.

  • What I really object to is dog owners who hang the plastic doggy poo bags on nearby branches.

  • Not really disposed of, just hidden from sight.  Or rather from the noses of small animals they might wish to prey upon, the actual reason they bury it in the first place as opposed to conscientiousness or some other human concept we might apply to our pets.

    Agree about plastic doggy bags, ought to be illegal imo, but I imagine most people aren't going to care about that and will buy the cheapest bags available to do the absolute minimum the law requires of them.

  • Cat stuff is biodegradable and cats make an effort to dispose of it properly.

    Dog stuff in plastic bags is not.  And out in the open is a smelly nuisance.

  • Clean up after themselves by burying their crap in other people's gardens, children's sand pits and wherever else they might feel like.  It ought to be socially acceptable for cat owners who allow their pets to roam to be publicly shamed the same way dog owners often are.

  • I'm definitely a cat person. I got trampled by a friendly Great Dane when I was little. Cats are not as hyperactive as dogs, they come when they want something like food or attention but are also happy to chill out on their own.