autism and agression

obviously right off we know this is a controversial and hard topic, but its something i really feel needs adressed for all of us.

i want to ask both sides, autistics and nts, what your views/thoughts on autism being connected with agression are;

first , for the nts who know /live with someone with autism who DOES have agression and sometimes violence,

for example, those with children who have 'tantrums that can result in violence and them lashing out, usually because of an autistic related stressor (hypersensitivty or misunderstanding of social experiences etc) as i have read a good number of those stories on this site, many of you have said you experience this

how do you feel when there are so many trying to distance autism from this issue, when those of us who live with it believer there is a connection? 

and for those of you with autism,

how do you feel about the connection made when you personally have never been agressive, lashed out or violent ?

and for those who have been agressivew, lashed out or violent, do you feel the connection is a fair one or unfair? 

as i said, i know this is a 'loaded' question, please try to be respectful when answering, thanks Laughing

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  • NAS5794 said:

    It looks like you misunderstood me, some one. I wasn't "getting defensive", nor was I implying that the opinions you expressed were your own. I also understood that you were merely discussing a possible link between autism and aggression, but I found it difficult to take any approach other than the one I did. Aspie thinking, I suppose.

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    as you say, you abhor violence, quite right, but you also said did frequently attack others, that is th eissue, not whether you like it or not, and not whether you do it more than anyone else or not, but whether you feel YOUR agression is connected to your being autistic

    I've read this paragraph several times and still can't quite get my head around it, so I'll answer the question I think you're asking and then you can tell me if I'm talking  absolute nonsense.

    When I was 4 or 5, I was very aggressive, and it's possible it was linked to my autism. Then again, it could have been because that's what a lot of children do: go to school to practise their warrior skills and then go home and flutter their eyelashes.

    But now, at age 17, I could never hurt anyone, and even the thought that I might have upset someone tortures me to the point where I can't sleep. Watching the news makes me anxious because I know I'll probably hear about all the people who've been murdered today. I long for a world of peace. Is this linked to my autism? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe being punished as a child just had a huge effect on me.

    no, i totally understand that, its the exact same as what im doing, we all interprate things our own way

    i appreciate your thought into the question, thats all im asking for, people not to as many do judge the question without answering it, but think about it, try to be unbiased while using their own experiences

    i tottally get what you are saying here but practicing 'warrior skills' is a very diffrent thing to not being able to control yourself having a meltdown or stress related attack which results in lashing out, sometimes with violence, thats my point, not having a standard human agression, ,but mainly the inability to control it and why and how it happens

    for me its a simple issue of both autistic experiences, inability to express the way nts do and of course a biological issue of the frontal lobes, to me i have seen a link, i want to learn what it is, why, and despite how many take this issue i actually want to help autistics with it, which seems like a given as i love my partner

    i see a link, im not the only person who sees it, but so few are willing to talk about it, even when the signs and facts are there

    no one is saying autism CAUSES agresson but some do want to help find the link and see if we can help it for us and autistics

    i personally dont see anything wrong in that and think it will only benefit us all in the long run

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  • NAS5794 said:

    It looks like you misunderstood me, some one. I wasn't "getting defensive", nor was I implying that the opinions you expressed were your own. I also understood that you were merely discussing a possible link between autism and aggression, but I found it difficult to take any approach other than the one I did. Aspie thinking, I suppose.

    [quote][/quote]

    as you say, you abhor violence, quite right, but you also said did frequently attack others, that is th eissue, not whether you like it or not, and not whether you do it more than anyone else or not, but whether you feel YOUR agression is connected to your being autistic

    I've read this paragraph several times and still can't quite get my head around it, so I'll answer the question I think you're asking and then you can tell me if I'm talking  absolute nonsense.

    When I was 4 or 5, I was very aggressive, and it's possible it was linked to my autism. Then again, it could have been because that's what a lot of children do: go to school to practise their warrior skills and then go home and flutter their eyelashes.

    But now, at age 17, I could never hurt anyone, and even the thought that I might have upset someone tortures me to the point where I can't sleep. Watching the news makes me anxious because I know I'll probably hear about all the people who've been murdered today. I long for a world of peace. Is this linked to my autism? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe being punished as a child just had a huge effect on me.

    no, i totally understand that, its the exact same as what im doing, we all interprate things our own way

    i appreciate your thought into the question, thats all im asking for, people not to as many do judge the question without answering it, but think about it, try to be unbiased while using their own experiences

    i tottally get what you are saying here but practicing 'warrior skills' is a very diffrent thing to not being able to control yourself having a meltdown or stress related attack which results in lashing out, sometimes with violence, thats my point, not having a standard human agression, ,but mainly the inability to control it and why and how it happens

    for me its a simple issue of both autistic experiences, inability to express the way nts do and of course a biological issue of the frontal lobes, to me i have seen a link, i want to learn what it is, why, and despite how many take this issue i actually want to help autistics with it, which seems like a given as i love my partner

    i see a link, im not the only person who sees it, but so few are willing to talk about it, even when the signs and facts are there

    no one is saying autism CAUSES agresson but some do want to help find the link and see if we can help it for us and autistics

    i personally dont see anything wrong in that and think it will only benefit us all in the long run

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