autism and agression

obviously right off we know this is a controversial and hard topic, but its something i really feel needs adressed for all of us.

i want to ask both sides, autistics and nts, what your views/thoughts on autism being connected with agression are;

first , for the nts who know /live with someone with autism who DOES have agression and sometimes violence,

for example, those with children who have 'tantrums that can result in violence and them lashing out, usually because of an autistic related stressor (hypersensitivty or misunderstanding of social experiences etc) as i have read a good number of those stories on this site, many of you have said you experience this

how do you feel when there are so many trying to distance autism from this issue, when those of us who live with it believer there is a connection? 

and for those of you with autism,

how do you feel about the connection made when you personally have never been agressive, lashed out or violent ?

and for those who have been agressivew, lashed out or violent, do you feel the connection is a fair one or unfair? 

as i said, i know this is a 'loaded' question, please try to be respectful when answering, thanks Laughing

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  • Scorpion0x17 said:

    I'm struggling to understand what the point of this is, some one.

    Is this not like asking whether liking Thomas The Tank Engine is connected to Autism?

    Just because something is more apparent in someone Autistic it does not mean that it's connected to their Autism.

    Or, in other words, NTs are agressive too, but no one would ask "Is agression connected to being neurotypical?"

    Agression is connected to being a human animal.

    i made it clear this was a touchy subject.im aware of the fact a lot of peopel do not like to connect these issues

    however

    i have personal experience, views and opinions, not everyone will agree 

    the point, as you say, is that my experiences have led me to have certain knowledge and opinons and id like to know others experiences, knowledge and opinons on it

    as i think, as i said, it is something that needs to be discussed

    i would then ask, why would you not ask is agression connected to being neurotypical?

    my point is if thats is a possiblity, then why not persue it? i think its better to know the facts of our behaviour and biology than do what i see a lot doing, distancing, with no real argument as to why its distanced, when there is any  evidence to suggest at least a (even if small) connection

    being with an autistic partner has meant i had to be willing to accept other possiblites and information i might not want to or like this is just one of those pices of information and possiblites i am open to

    i have never claimed otherwise, im aware of what being an animal is and what it means

     but that doesnt change that there will be different reasons for every persons/and disorders, behaviour, and that understanding those is better and healthier and more helpful to soceity and the individuals with the disorder than trying to distance from the possiblites or information

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  • Scorpion0x17 said:

    I'm struggling to understand what the point of this is, some one.

    Is this not like asking whether liking Thomas The Tank Engine is connected to Autism?

    Just because something is more apparent in someone Autistic it does not mean that it's connected to their Autism.

    Or, in other words, NTs are agressive too, but no one would ask "Is agression connected to being neurotypical?"

    Agression is connected to being a human animal.

    i made it clear this was a touchy subject.im aware of the fact a lot of peopel do not like to connect these issues

    however

    i have personal experience, views and opinions, not everyone will agree 

    the point, as you say, is that my experiences have led me to have certain knowledge and opinons and id like to know others experiences, knowledge and opinons on it

    as i think, as i said, it is something that needs to be discussed

    i would then ask, why would you not ask is agression connected to being neurotypical?

    my point is if thats is a possiblity, then why not persue it? i think its better to know the facts of our behaviour and biology than do what i see a lot doing, distancing, with no real argument as to why its distanced, when there is any  evidence to suggest at least a (even if small) connection

    being with an autistic partner has meant i had to be willing to accept other possiblites and information i might not want to or like this is just one of those pices of information and possiblites i am open to

    i have never claimed otherwise, im aware of what being an animal is and what it means

     but that doesnt change that there will be different reasons for every persons/and disorders, behaviour, and that understanding those is better and healthier and more helpful to soceity and the individuals with the disorder than trying to distance from the possiblites or information

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