No Poli Ticks, a better Voting system?

The problem is everyone has different views and if there's as many pro as against, nothing would ever get done.      You only have to watch that Channel 4 complaints advert to see how everyone's opinions amount to just noise.

Political threads on a forum are always a really bad idea because of this - they usually descend into a slanging match or a bullying game if you don't follow the prevalent herd mentality.

True I can't agree more but I have mentioned no politics, just a discussion on bettering the voting system. 

Plus If you add the option of who's approach to how you want the policy to be carried out and by which party I doubt there would be a tie.

What are your ideas what would you do to better the voting system if you could ? 

First past the post is the only system that can work - if you look at any other proportional systems in use, they are a mess with ineffective governments arguing amongst themselves.     The 4-year term is a time limit to see if they are doing a good job - if not, they get voted out and the other bunch get a go. 

The NHS thing was an example I was using not a reflection on my true view point.

I have an Idea where alot of the problems lie and that also the greed of Banker and the position that they have put us in has been well understood for a long time. 

I think your assumption about the safety of the NHS is way off the mark - but you're choice is your choice.      The main problem is the bankers have encouraged countries to run massive debts up so all countries are broke so all 'costs' need to be slashed.

The other problem is that governments see the people as mindless drones - cheap to replace - so why bother educating or healing them - replacement is easier - with a more malleable drone - one that will be satisfied with 'less', work harder for less money and is afraid to cause trouble........

Thank you thou plastic for sharing your ideas with me it isn't often people join in for a swapping and trading or even an entertaining of ideas. 

Ha, you might be right (Venezuela that's funny) I would hope not everyone is like that though but from a Voter point of view and historical (only because I love history) there should be more options because it allows us to be more specific in what we want.

PLUS the print out is for the vote like the voting we do now, sorry I should of been more clear the print out is handed back after. 

The electronic one is an easy and fast vote with lots of options and is shown on a national site for everyone to see.  

(not personal details)

and the options are like 

Policy : NHS  Privatisation yes or no

        OR

More detailed options like yes only if ect. 

Parties proposals of how they would carry out policy 

Which party you would like to see carry out the proposal. 

Then the paper print out of your choices is to be submitted at poling Station to complete your vote (like we normally do it, but instead of parties it would be for policies. 

The digital system would be too easy to manipulate - and you could never verify the result because of a load of bits of paper, probably thrown away, all over the country.    

Our system has flaws but it's the most robust it can be.

If you look at people wanting to change the system, they only want to do so to benefit themselves - which is clear proof that they absolutely don't care about the voters - it's all about grabbing power and fiddling the systems to keep it - like in Venezuela..

It would be open to hacking maybe but with the physical printout also that's to be counted after the electronic vote is cast it would be obvious that something was wrong.

plus making something better is not anarchism look at the printing press I would think writing by hand hundreds of pages would be disastrous think of all the books never written or read because people did not change from hand work to a print system?

How would you go about countering the hack of a digital system because I know there must be a better way than a print out that is counted afterwards, it's twice the work. 

It would be open to hacking maybe but with the physical printout also that's to be counted after the electronic vote is cast it would be obvious that something was wrong.

plus making something better is not anarchism look at the printing press I would think writing by hand hundreds of pages would be disastrous think of all the books never written or read because people did not change from hand work to a print system?

How would you go about countering the hack of a digital system because I know there must be a better way than a print out that is counted afterwards, it's twice the work. 

The NHS thing was an example I was using not a reflection on my true view point.

I have an Idea where alot of the problems lie and that also the greed of Banker and the position that they have put us in has been well understood for a long time. 

I think your assumption about the safety of the NHS is way off the mark - but you're choice is your choice.      The main problem is the bankers have encouraged countries to run massive debts up so all countries are broke so all 'costs' need to be slashed.

The other problem is that governments see the people as mindless drones - cheap to replace - so why bother educating or healing them - replacement is easier - with a more malleable drone - one that will be satisfied with 'less', work harder for less money and is afraid to cause trouble........

Thank you thou plastic for sharing your ideas with me it isn't often people join in for a swapping and trading or even an entertaining of ideas. 

Ha, you might be right (Venezuela that's funny) I would hope not everyone is like that though but from a Voter point of view and historical (only because I love history) there should be more options because it allows us to be more specific in what we want.

PLUS the print out is for the vote like the voting we do now, sorry I should of been more clear the print out is handed back after. 

The electronic one is an easy and fast vote with lots of options and is shown on a national site for everyone to see.  

(not personal details)

and the options are like 

Policy : NHS  Privatisation yes or no

        OR

More detailed options like yes only if ect. 

Parties proposals of how they would carry out policy 

Which party you would like to see carry out the proposal. 

Then the paper print out of your choices is to be submitted at poling Station to complete your vote (like we normally do it, but instead of parties it would be for policies. 

The digital system would be too easy to manipulate - and you could never verify the result because of a load of bits of paper, probably thrown away, all over the country.    

Our system has flaws but it's the most robust it can be.

If you look at people wanting to change the system, they only want to do so to benefit themselves - which is clear proof that they absolutely don't care about the voters - it's all about grabbing power and fiddling the systems to keep it - like in Venezuela..