PIPped off people.

Are you for real?      Is this just a trolling post or are you having a laugh?

No it’s for real, Plastic. Looking at the whole PIP system, for everyone it should include. Just wondering if there could be a better system FOR EVERYONE who needs support. 

There's nothing wrong with the PIP system - it's people like ATOS and the others who are manipulating the poor sods who have to apply for it.

It’s personal experience. My alcoholic friend was given extra money to boost her nutrition. She could then afford spirits as well as cheap cider. Another acquaintances husband would regularly smash and replace expensive phones. He got PIP for being violent. A terminally ill friend with mental health problems needed to buy in care and a cleaner. Instead she bought and broke expensive phones too, replacing and multiplying them. Nobody called from mental health services. I could list more, but you can see it’s my life experience. 

Yes, your priorities are obviously very different to mine. I make no apology. 

Justanothernobody said:

Others get awarded, but don’t use it for the intended purpose. 

That's an unbelievably pious judgement - who are you to decide how people spend their money?   Your priorities are probably very different to mine.

All of which makes me intensely sad. I’ve been advised to grab all I can and not worry about other people, but I’m afraid that goes against the grain for me. I honestly only want what I need. Many people do get just that. Others don’t receive enough. Others get awarded, but don’t use it for the intended purpose. 

Once you start to see the inner workings and calamitous, incompetent management and the way these things are run, you see where all the waste is.   

As with lots of government contracts, they are kept deliberately chaotic - because where there is chaos, there is profit - for the few.

You only need to see stories about care homes charging 30k per week per patient to see who is scamming the system.     There is PLENTY of money sloshing around - but none for those who need it.

Once you start to see the inner workings and calamitous, incompetent management and the way these things are run, you see where all the waste is.   

As with lots of government contracts, they are kept deliberately chaotic - because where there is chaos, there is profit - for the few.

You only need to see stories about care homes charging 30k per week per patient to see who is scamming the system.     There is PLENTY of money sloshing around - but none for those who need it.

It’s personal experience. My alcoholic friend was given extra money to boost her nutrition. She could then afford spirits as well as cheap cider. Another acquaintances husband would regularly smash and replace expensive phones. He got PIP for being violent. A terminally ill friend with mental health problems needed to buy in care and a cleaner. Instead she bought and broke expensive phones too, replacing and multiplying them. Nobody called from mental health services. I could list more, but you can see it’s my life experience. 

Yes, your priorities are obviously very different to mine. I make no apology. 

Justanothernobody said:

Others get awarded, but don’t use it for the intended purpose. 

That's an unbelievably pious judgement - who are you to decide how people spend their money?   Your priorities are probably very different to mine.

All of which makes me intensely sad. I’ve been advised to grab all I can and not worry about other people, but I’m afraid that goes against the grain for me. I honestly only want what I need. Many people do get just that. Others don’t receive enough. Others get awarded, but don’t use it for the intended purpose.