ASD v Narcissm

Hi all .I posted about 10 days ago as I thought my husband had undiagnosed ASD .We were having counselling and I got some really helpful replies. ( Particularly from Plastic and Sunflower)  Breaking news : The counsellor thinks my husband has narcissistic personality disorder! This is an absolute shocker for me and I totally didn't see that coming but when I look into it there are loads of similarities between the two and it absolutely makes sense of his self absorption and lack of empathy. Of course narcissists are virtually incapable of any adaptation and tend to be incurably manipulative so it doesn't bode well for our marriage. Given they have such similar symptoms I wonder how often people are misdiagnosed.

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  • Hi. Im sorry youryy going through this.

    Asperger's and autism are very different to narccisstic personality disorders.

    I'm divorcing s covert narcissist. It's been hell and his behaviours are defined by cycles of behaviour

    Living with s narcissist person leaves you with PTSD due to the act of deliberate atricion. 

    They leave no one out of there dramas  victimhood, rages, dramas and martyrdom. 

    I have a friend with severe Asperger's, there is a huge difference in behaviour and my friend does a lot of work on himself and has empathy, love and compassion for others.

    A narc cannot take on the work to mend the broken self and usually deflects it onto the person closest to them. You have the problem..not them

    They lie, deflect, rage, go cold (gaslight) , treat with distain and create horrible atmospheres.

    In my opinion you will be living a miracle if the counselling works. Most counselors are not sufficient it dealing with this very serious personality disorders that can get very dangerous for the co dependant. A experienced psychatrist who had clinical experience should be consulted.

    With shared counselling there is the opportunity for the narc to hold court and the in experienced counseler to be part of there game.of triangulation There very good at it. 

    Yes some people on the autistic spectrum have narcissist  tentendcies. We all do..some more than others. But the difference with the narc is the lack of morality , compassion and empathy. 

    A autistic person may react in s certain way due to a lower levels of understanding and not understanding social environments , behaviours and so on. 

    The covert narc is able to  tactically play people like a game of chess.They can or can become sadistic and take delight in causing just not emotional turmoil to the other person but very severe consequences. I have been through this.

    I've wasted 15 years of my life with someone who has done things and said things that l cannot mention on here.

    Please to not take this diognoses lightly. It's very serious and you need to stop questioning yourself and do what you need to do. You need to read up on that condition..when a narc flips..and they can it usually hits the headlines.

    You need to build boundaries and when they are  broken don't hang around to have the very life force drained from you.

      I may seem very severe but if he has been diagnosed you need to seriously consider if you want this or not. What kind of future where you planning?

    Children will be adversely effected. Read up on the narc model and educate yourself. But this isn't s project you'll be able to walk away from years from now with a clean break. If you want to help people,  train as s psychotherapist but do not think for one second that you on your own can cope with this v dangerous diognoses.

    Take care of yourself .x

    If you are reading this and you are autistic please do not think for one moment you are a narccisist or sociopath .

    You're just wonderful like my  daughter. and all those thousands of other people on the spectrum x

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  • Hi. Im sorry youryy going through this.

    Asperger's and autism are very different to narccisstic personality disorders.

    I'm divorcing s covert narcissist. It's been hell and his behaviours are defined by cycles of behaviour

    Living with s narcissist person leaves you with PTSD due to the act of deliberate atricion. 

    They leave no one out of there dramas  victimhood, rages, dramas and martyrdom. 

    I have a friend with severe Asperger's, there is a huge difference in behaviour and my friend does a lot of work on himself and has empathy, love and compassion for others.

    A narc cannot take on the work to mend the broken self and usually deflects it onto the person closest to them. You have the problem..not them

    They lie, deflect, rage, go cold (gaslight) , treat with distain and create horrible atmospheres.

    In my opinion you will be living a miracle if the counselling works. Most counselors are not sufficient it dealing with this very serious personality disorders that can get very dangerous for the co dependant. A experienced psychatrist who had clinical experience should be consulted.

    With shared counselling there is the opportunity for the narc to hold court and the in experienced counseler to be part of there game.of triangulation There very good at it. 

    Yes some people on the autistic spectrum have narcissist  tentendcies. We all do..some more than others. But the difference with the narc is the lack of morality , compassion and empathy. 

    A autistic person may react in s certain way due to a lower levels of understanding and not understanding social environments , behaviours and so on. 

    The covert narc is able to  tactically play people like a game of chess.They can or can become sadistic and take delight in causing just not emotional turmoil to the other person but very severe consequences. I have been through this.

    I've wasted 15 years of my life with someone who has done things and said things that l cannot mention on here.

    Please to not take this diognoses lightly. It's very serious and you need to stop questioning yourself and do what you need to do. You need to read up on that condition..when a narc flips..and they can it usually hits the headlines.

    You need to build boundaries and when they are  broken don't hang around to have the very life force drained from you.

      I may seem very severe but if he has been diagnosed you need to seriously consider if you want this or not. What kind of future where you planning?

    Children will be adversely effected. Read up on the narc model and educate yourself. But this isn't s project you'll be able to walk away from years from now with a clean break. If you want to help people,  train as s psychotherapist but do not think for one second that you on your own can cope with this v dangerous diognoses.

    Take care of yourself .x

    If you are reading this and you are autistic please do not think for one moment you are a narccisist or sociopath .

    You're just wonderful like my  daughter. and all those thousands of other people on the spectrum x

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