Scared of my future/brexit.

  • Just to say i talked to my parents and it is all under control. I will get back to you guys when its all sorted..............
    Hello I lived here for about 30 odd years and i have been schooled here and never broken the law.
    I was born in south Africa in 1987 and moved to the uk, my mum and dad are Belgium and we moved from Africa due to my dads job. I myself never really worked and I claimed jobseekers and dla at around 2012. 
    I was to have a paper claiming if i wanted to keep my Belgium passport but I never had it and my passport was revoked. 
    Only started saving recently to become British as to stay in the country. I am getting my papers sorted and then i can get a British passport but im scared if they say i cant become british and then deport me as i never really worked here.
    Everyone tells me not to worry but i just dont feel safe. I understand why people voted for brexit but i dont want to move as i will live in poverty and wont be safe in Africa. I have nothing there.
    My mum and dad worked in the uk for most my life and they are applying for British passport and what not. 
    I am not very good at saving and I have asked if I could have a loan on moneysavingexpert.com but they were pretty rude.
    I feel so bad im not sure if I deserve this at all, am a bad person? Will i get kicked out?
    Could you give me any advice?
    I did try to contact NAS but it said it was blocked not sure why as i have not used that email in years
    Kind regards.
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  • My mum and dad worked in the uk for most my life and they are applying for British passport and what not. 

    I'd get involved in their process. It will be far easier if they are involved. If you were born in SA you will have a South African passport also dual nationality by the sounds of things. Looking at the entitlements you have claimed and the duration (since 2012?), it seems you have some sort of citizenship. If you've been here 30 years immigration would have been on the case by now, I'd imagine. The details seem a bit thin for me to make a complete judgement. As said in another part of the thread EU Nationals who are already here are not going to be deported. You've been here a long time.

    I'd call your parents as soon as possible. It's all well and good asking people you don't know, (and can't answer your questions properly) on the internet, but the only people that can tell you properly, and quickly enough to end the worry are your parents. They could just tell you that you have citizenship. Worry over, problem solved.

    Here are the steps to take tomorrow or when you can.

    1. Call your parents! They will know what your passport is, and citizenship status. If they tell you it's all well and good, get your passport. If it's fine no need for step 2. Stop worrying.

    2. If it's not good there ask your parents if you can get involved in their process for citizenship. If not get as much paperwork as you can and go to step 3.

    3. People have suggested CAB here. The CAB is probably not the first place I'd go. Their caseload is massive, and I'd say that they aren't used to dealing with autistic clients regularly. If you have problems dealing with this sort of stuff, there are Autism Advocacy groups. They can help you apply for and/or find out your Legal Citizenship Status. They are also experienced and sympathetic to autistic clients.

    This explains advocacy.

    https://www.autism.org.uk/advocacyandautism

    There is a directory of Autism Advocacy groups in the UK.

    https://www.autism.org.uk/directory/browse/cid=51~aid=1.aspx

    If you can't find your Autism Advocacy group get back here and let me know the area or city you live in. Just pop it in the replies.

    Most of all don't worry, as much as you can. It might never happen.

     

  • I got no passport what so ever. I did have a Belguim passport but that was revoked and I had no passport since and that I can't understand its so messed up. I am getting a solicitor of some sort to sort this out. Has said once I have chance but that was some time ago. Just had a bill and its some bit and said nothing if I indeed have a chance. Things change so I'm a bit worried.

    I live in the cearphilly area.

  • Did you ask your parents? It could just be as simple as asking them about it or asking them for help.

    I am getting a solicitor of some sort to sort this out. Has said once I have chance but that was some time ago. Just had a bill and its some bit and said nothing if I indeed have a chance. Things change so I'm a bit worried.

    First of all you may not need a solicitor. You might have citizenship. A passport doesn't necessarily mean you are a citizen. Any solicitor who is their salt would be able to clarify the situation, even slightly. It sounds like you are being took advantage of or the solicitor is a clown.

    Again ask your parents. It's the first thing to go to.

    I have indeed been Christned but in Belguim. I am still claiming dla but it's going to be changed some other payment at any time and I  have a National Insurance number.

    I'm not a solicitor but I know enough to tell you more than the "solicitor" you have spoken to.

    You have a National Insurance number. You need to be eligible to study or work in the UK. This means you are in the tax system.

    You get DLA, to be eligible you need to have either UK citizenship, or be from the EU or Switzerland. So going by that YOU AREN'T CONSIDERED AFRICAN.

    I have given every paper that they asked for,  getting it sorted by a solicitor of some sort and he asked £2500. Whenever I asked the people that care for me why it's so expensive they say it's because it's such a complex case.

    Someone is having you at it. You NEED to get in touch with your parents. PLEASE!

    £2500 should more than cover a citizenship application. You have even provided them with all the information. Something doesn't add up. Either the solicitor is scamming or your carers are. Ask for all the paperwork that the solicitor has given, and an invoice or quote from the solicitor, depending on how far it is. A real solicitor would be able to tell you your status, and what needs to be done.

    First of all stop letting the TV, or in the worst case, your carers wind you up about being deported. 

    Secondly, and most importantly, CALL YOUR PARENTS, something doesn't add up here with the things you are saying you have been told. Really, I'm pretty pissed at reading that people can't tell you a thing. It stinks of bullshit. Sorry to be frank, but it just doesn't seem right.

    If you can't here is the number for an Advocacy service near you.

    https://www.scope.org.uk/support/services-directory/caerphilly

    Please call your parents though. Really.

  • A pretty angry response to a perfectly reasonable post. I explained that there was no need to take offence, but you have taken offence to that. I don't know what you want. I have nothing to apologise for, so I won't, as that would be insincere. You've had an explaination. If you read through my last response it's all covered there.

    With allies like you Cloudy Mountain, who needs enemies?

    So what have I done to impede any of us aiding LostOne87? Nothing. The only gripe you have is a personal one with me it seems. I don't see why I would be your enemy. I have no opinion on you apart from the one I last stated. You are quick to take offence, and now it seems quick to anger too. I don't see you as an enemy.

    You take no responsibility for any offence, blaming the recipient and even adding fuel to the fire.

    If you read my last post I said there was no need to take offence. I didn't blame the recipient, I stated a fact, you took it badly. You aren't a victim, so don't imply that you are. If I gave an explaination I didn't add fuel to the fire. I was perfectly cordial, and fully explained myself so the opposite is true. Read my post again. You even implied my response to "Angry Guy" was unreasonable. Attempting to tie my response to him, to a totally unrelated post you unnecessarily took offence to is a strawman tactic.

    Do you not see a pattern forming? No, bet you don't. 

    You seem to be getting angrier and more insulting with every reply. That's the pattern I'm starting to see. Again your issue with me and "Angry Guy" are totally unrelated. If you are OK with LostOne87 being called a liar, a troll, and someone who is trying to "drag it out", and you aren't OK with my defence of him, well, you seem to have things the wrong way around. I have my faith that this isn't the case, and you are just using it as a strawman to attempt to tie it into your own issue with me.

    You are making an issue of something that really isn't an issue. I think this has become somewhat personal for you now, that's a pity if that is the case. Again, there's nothing I can do about that.

    I was more than willing to bury the hatchet, I have explained myself twice now. Politely.

    "Angry guy" has been very helpful in this thread apart from his small outburst.

    There is no reason we shouldn't be allies, but I guess that's up to you.

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  • A pretty angry response to a perfectly reasonable post. I explained that there was no need to take offence, but you have taken offence to that. I don't know what you want. I have nothing to apologise for, so I won't, as that would be insincere. You've had an explaination. If you read through my last response it's all covered there.

    With allies like you Cloudy Mountain, who needs enemies?

    So what have I done to impede any of us aiding LostOne87? Nothing. The only gripe you have is a personal one with me it seems. I don't see why I would be your enemy. I have no opinion on you apart from the one I last stated. You are quick to take offence, and now it seems quick to anger too. I don't see you as an enemy.

    You take no responsibility for any offence, blaming the recipient and even adding fuel to the fire.

    If you read my last post I said there was no need to take offence. I didn't blame the recipient, I stated a fact, you took it badly. You aren't a victim, so don't imply that you are. If I gave an explaination I didn't add fuel to the fire. I was perfectly cordial, and fully explained myself so the opposite is true. Read my post again. You even implied my response to "Angry Guy" was unreasonable. Attempting to tie my response to him, to a totally unrelated post you unnecessarily took offence to is a strawman tactic.

    Do you not see a pattern forming? No, bet you don't. 

    You seem to be getting angrier and more insulting with every reply. That's the pattern I'm starting to see. Again your issue with me and "Angry Guy" are totally unrelated. If you are OK with LostOne87 being called a liar, a troll, and someone who is trying to "drag it out", and you aren't OK with my defence of him, well, you seem to have things the wrong way around. I have my faith that this isn't the case, and you are just using it as a strawman to attempt to tie it into your own issue with me.

    You are making an issue of something that really isn't an issue. I think this has become somewhat personal for you now, that's a pity if that is the case. Again, there's nothing I can do about that.

    I was more than willing to bury the hatchet, I have explained myself twice now. Politely.

    "Angry guy" has been very helpful in this thread apart from his small outburst.

    There is no reason we shouldn't be allies, but I guess that's up to you.

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