Bed Punishment Was the Boy likely to have been Autistic?

I heard a little boy about nine years old in my local park scream he does not want to go to bed.

It was about 4PM.

Pulled the lady  he was with probably his Mother.

A lot of the time she was on her mobile talking about the number of people in the park.

A girl probably his younger sister comforted him.

The apparent Mother ignored the screaming and being pulled about.

Many people in the Mothers situation would have hit the boy.

I asked the NSPC by E Mail who was abused.

They said that if I could identify the child I could report it.

There are two sides here.

One side is that children should not be put to bed during the day for punishment so he was right to resist.

 

The other side is that children should obey their Mothers.

I have been told many times that I should accept authority even if it is wrong.

Was that little boy likely to have been Autistic.?

David

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  • Are Autistic people better than so called NTs at refusing to obey orders when there are wrong?

    I think you are right that it is not just British people who say one must obey the law even when the law is wrong.

    The Germans in Nazi Germany obeyed orders too much.

    It is complicated the Germans thought that they were obeying the law but they were not obeying the law as after the war it was decided that many of the laws in Nazi Germany were illegal.  The Jewish people were murdered as the *** used executive powers to intern them and they were killed on unofficial orders which were even secret.

    I remember in 1969 an Irish Maths Master wanted to slipper me for getting a sum wrong I refused to bend over.

    The other boy bent over and took his punishment like a man so the teacher said.

    I do not think the other boy had Autism and his trouble might have been that he was a year younger.  He entered the independent Grammar school aged ten and I entered eleven.  I think I was  twelve at the time but the other boy was about a year younger than me.

    The Maths Master boycotted me for several weeks.

    The Maths Master quietly explained to my Mother that I have learn to obey orders and in the army he is sure you have to obey orders although he was never in the army.

    The argument he used was that one has to carry out threats so he could not let me off or give me an alternative punishment such as a Saturday Morning Detention.

    He explained to my Mother that we were warned that we had to get two sums right in half an hour or be slippered.  I got the LCM right but the HCF wrong.

    The other boy got both sums wrong.

    It is correct that we were warned but I still had not learned how to do the HCF.

    When I was a school boy most men had been in the army.

    My Mother replied that the Germans obeyed orders too much.

    My Father who was not at that meeting did not like my Mother's remark about the Germans.  I think at a Parents meeting the Maths teacher explained to my Father what happened.

    Both my Parents tried to encourage me to submit and thought I was a coward but I did not submit to being slippered.

    The point is in general one should obey the law and orders but when they are clearly wrong not obey them.

    At Nurmburg the defence that I was obeying orders was not accepted.

    In the above case although corporal punishment was legal over forty years ago I suspect that the slippering might have been technically illegal as I do not know if he put it in the punishment book for the other boy who did bend over.

    I should have asked the teacher but did not think of that.

    I have to admit that by the standads of over forty years ago the teacher had a lot of right on his side and I probably should not have been in that school because of Autism.

    David

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  • Are Autistic people better than so called NTs at refusing to obey orders when there are wrong?

    I think you are right that it is not just British people who say one must obey the law even when the law is wrong.

    The Germans in Nazi Germany obeyed orders too much.

    It is complicated the Germans thought that they were obeying the law but they were not obeying the law as after the war it was decided that many of the laws in Nazi Germany were illegal.  The Jewish people were murdered as the *** used executive powers to intern them and they were killed on unofficial orders which were even secret.

    I remember in 1969 an Irish Maths Master wanted to slipper me for getting a sum wrong I refused to bend over.

    The other boy bent over and took his punishment like a man so the teacher said.

    I do not think the other boy had Autism and his trouble might have been that he was a year younger.  He entered the independent Grammar school aged ten and I entered eleven.  I think I was  twelve at the time but the other boy was about a year younger than me.

    The Maths Master boycotted me for several weeks.

    The Maths Master quietly explained to my Mother that I have learn to obey orders and in the army he is sure you have to obey orders although he was never in the army.

    The argument he used was that one has to carry out threats so he could not let me off or give me an alternative punishment such as a Saturday Morning Detention.

    He explained to my Mother that we were warned that we had to get two sums right in half an hour or be slippered.  I got the LCM right but the HCF wrong.

    The other boy got both sums wrong.

    It is correct that we were warned but I still had not learned how to do the HCF.

    When I was a school boy most men had been in the army.

    My Mother replied that the Germans obeyed orders too much.

    My Father who was not at that meeting did not like my Mother's remark about the Germans.  I think at a Parents meeting the Maths teacher explained to my Father what happened.

    Both my Parents tried to encourage me to submit and thought I was a coward but I did not submit to being slippered.

    The point is in general one should obey the law and orders but when they are clearly wrong not obey them.

    At Nurmburg the defence that I was obeying orders was not accepted.

    In the above case although corporal punishment was legal over forty years ago I suspect that the slippering might have been technically illegal as I do not know if he put it in the punishment book for the other boy who did bend over.

    I should have asked the teacher but did not think of that.

    I have to admit that by the standads of over forty years ago the teacher had a lot of right on his side and I probably should not have been in that school because of Autism.

    David

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