Do I possess a "Deviant Style of Gaze"??????

I have just been emailed this questionnaire to fill in on in relation to a student that I teach.  If you have a moment... read the questions.  Would you score yourself 20/27 or more?

The thread subject relates to Question 14!!

deviant
ˈdiːvɪənt/
adjective
  1. 1.
    departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behaviour.
    "deviant behaviour"
    synonyms: aberrantdeviating, divergentabnormalatypicaluntypicalnon-typicalanomalousdigressiveirregularnon-standard; More

Appendix II The High-Functioning Autism Spectrum Screening Questionnaire (ASSQ)

 

 (A score over 20 would indicate that the patient should be referred for detailed assessment).

This child stands out from other children of his/her age in the following way;

1      is old-fashioned or precocious

No

 

Somewhat

 

Yes

 

 

 

 

2      is regarded as an ‘eccentric professor’ by the other children

 

 

 

3      lives somewhat in a world of his/her own with restricted idiosyncratic intellectual interests

 

 

 

4      accumulates facts on certain subjects (good rote memory) but does not really understand the meaning

 

 

 

5      has a literal understanding of ambiguous and metaphoric language

 

 

 

6      has a deviant style of communication with a formal, fussy, ‘old-fashioned’ or ‘robot- like’ language

 

 

 

7      invents idiosyncratic words and expressions

 

 

 

8      has a different voice or speech

 

 

 

9      expresses sounds involuntarily; clears throat, grunts, smacks, cries or screams

 

 

 

10    is surprisingly good at some things and surprisingly poor at others

 

 

 

11    uses language freely but fails to make adjustments to fit social contexts or the needs of different listeners

 

 

 

12    lacks empathy

 

 

 

13    makes naïve and embarrassing remarks

 

 

 

14    has a deviant style of gaze

 

 

 

15    wishes to be sociable but fails to make relationships with peers

 

 

 

16    can be with other children but only on his/her terms

 

 

 

17    lacks best friend

 

 

 

18    lacks common sense

 

 

 

19    is poor at games; no idea of cooperating in a team, scores ‘own goals’

 

 

 

20    has clumsy, ill coordinated, ungainly, awkward movements or gestures

 

 

 

21    has involuntary face or body movements

 

 

 

22    has difficulties in completing simple daily activities because of compulsory repetition of certain actions or thoughts

 

 

 

23    has special routines; insists on no change

 

 

 

24    shows idiosyncratic attachment to objects

 

 

 

25    is bullied by other children

 

 

 

26    has markedly unusual facial expression

 

 

 

27    has markedly unusual posture

 

 

 

Specify reasons other than above:

  • It's interesting how attached people are to eye contact. 

    People who have a glass eye must have the same problem because, naturally, their gaze isn't going to look normal because the glass eye will either not move, or move out of sync with the real eye.

  • I am currently filling this exact form for my boy and want to thank everyone on here for putting the fun spin on this form...stress was too much so i had a google and found this thread .. thank you all .

  • Think the line manager deserved a death stare - followed by a head but on the nose! What an utter scum bag

  • No Staring???

    Good riddance - sounds like you were working for a modern slavery get up! 

    Honestky - human rights and employment rights? 

  • Me too - I make surf movies and I can see my weirdness come out in GoPro footage - usually in the corner of a shot where you don’t realise you’re in shot. Yuk - no wonder people avoid me - lol 

  • I have it too - it’s a shame that to survive at school - you have to be a recluse or - stand up to bully’s and be ‘made into a Hard nut’ 

    I would have much rather been able to study my interests than spend time defending myself against bully’s - teachers and police, authority in general. 

    School is an abuse system - designed to degrade and demoralise those that don’t fit. 

    Education - schooling is the root of all evil. It’s child abuse to autistics. 

  • Awesome Reasons to specify other than above.

    Sad that some are reality for you :( 

    Keep eating that meat and spread those wings werecat and soar high and fast, 

    take care.

  • Specify reasons other than above:

    ...Must ...resist...temptation...to carry on being 'silly'... at a 5 Month old Thread with answers so far inviting silliness...

    The: 'SPECIFY REASONS OTHER THAN ABOVE'. part.

    Anyone else? I would put: Dresses like a Man to avoid being harassed by strangers who even when I used to dress like a Woman would mistake Me for being a Man. 

    Or: Constantly stares at the ground except when it is raining really heavy, at which point takes out an umbrella and starts Singing In The Rain.

    Or: Around Full Moon turns into a Winged WereCat which must be fed only MEAT, insists with that a Glass of Fine Red Wine.

    Or: Reasons other than above, too weird and too many to list in the small space given on this official Form, what with that "deviant gaze" and all, and so please see the attatched separate A4 paper.

    ...This could go on. Surely someone will berate this. (!)

  • It was watching a video of me taken during a wedding reception that confirmed to me I am autistic. I look really uncomfortable and all my movements are awkward. I had no idea. But then no one had ever told me :p

  • You are awesome ! Reading your comments lights up my day :)

  • I am currently filling this exact form for my boy and want to thank everyone on here for putting the fun spin on this form...stress was too much so i had a google and found this thread .. thank you all .

  • (Often when I gain chance to Log On, I forget to Post this. Now I have remembered...)

    "Common Sense".

    A very good instance of "Common Sense" is still in operation and can be done or witnessed today. Perhaps it is the only one remaining...?

    I am sitting upon the top deck of a Bus (Omnibus). The street becomes quite narrow, what with parked Cars upon either side. An approaching Vehicle realises this, and actually *halts* to allow the Bus to pass by first. Sometimes they flash Headlights, or other times they may put out an Arm and gesture at the Bus...

    The Bus is allowed to pass through first. And THAT sort of instance is my last witnessing of "Common Sense" almost anywhere (in a big City).

    :-)

  • Aah, John Peel; now you're making me rather nostalgic (not something that happens very often!). I spent a couple of days a while back converting a bunch of old cassettes of a friend's favourite teenage/20s music to digital, and quite a few were recordings of Peel shows off the radio, complete with his dulcet tones and slips of the needle. My friend's taste in music is rather different to mine, but I thoroughly enjoyed listening back to a few Festive Fifties from my youth.

    I've got bass covered; any drummers out there to complete the line up?!  It would be kind of cool if Deviant Gaze were an all-Aspie band; we could all go hide from the audience in the tour bus together once we've finished playing (I ended up quitting being in bands because my off-stage fright was a hundred times worse than my stage-fright!)

  • Thanks Jonesy...

    I can relate to the ups and downs following diagnosis, but it was a relief not to have to kill myself trying to "fit in" or assimilate, pretend to be capable, pretend to understand, laugh when others laugh even though I didn't understand the joke, feel ashamed or embarrassed when I behaved impulsively, feel inadequate because I'm unable to carry out some tasks which most people seem to find very easy (like using public transport, for example) etc and best of all, I've learned self compassion, self acceptance and I'm learning more about my condition and how it affects me...

    I can't help being like this ;-)

    I'm still not able to communicate verbally very easily, but I am trying to explain some of my differences (sensory/executive function/inhibition regulation/motor and verbal tics) to neuro typical people so that, hopefully, I am less likely to offend, upset or confuse people who don't understand my (sometimes unusual) speech or behaviour...

    It's a journey!

  • I hope you're getting the support you deserve

    Sadly there are no services for adult aspies in Staffordshire at all unless you count Stoke on Trent which is the best part of an hours drive away. So all my support has to come from my family and a couple of friends whom I've told.  

    How was it for you?

    The process of getting a diagnosis was drawn out (although not as bad as some here have described) by them splitting it into 3 x 1 hour assessments which were stretched across 5 months so I was very relieved and elated to get my diagnosis. However once the initial euphoria of having been correct in my self diagnosis had worn off, I started to go through some quite depressive periods, something I am still experiencing now. I think I'm mourning for the normal me I have always wanted to be and tried to bend myself into but who now I know I can never be.

    Other than the work side how's it been for you Anna? 

  • Always so easy to recognise in others what we fail to recognise in ourselves... Autism runs in families, so I hope your partner celebrates his uniqueness if he is diagnosed with Autism... Tell him welcome to the clan! ;-)

    Ditto for your daughter... x

  • Thanks Jonesy...

    Ironically, I felt quite shocked when I first received my diagnosis...(much better for it now!)

    How was it for you? 10 months is a relatively short time... I hope you're getting the support you deserve :-)

    I think it was a combination of things which led to me ending up on Mole Valley Council's scrap-heap, but I feel much more positive and confident in my current (temp) job and optimistic about future opportunities too...

  • Likewise, I find video of me rather disturbing. Not just my gaze and facial expressions, but also my posture, gestures, and walking gait. I'd known for a long time that these things got noticed (e.g. people commenting on how easy I am to recognise from a distance by my walk), but actually seeing them made me realise the huge difference between what I think my body is doing and what it's actually doing. It does explain a lot of things about my poor co-ordination and difficulty copying other people's movements, and maybe would have been useful if video was so common when I was much younger, but the discomfort is very profound; it's hard to accept that it really is me that I'm watching.

  • Thats terrible that you lost your job over staring. I think sometimes NTs just can't handle our differences and feel very uncomfortable with anyone that doesn't 'fit in' and often find the flimsiest excuses to reject us be it in the workplace or anywhere else. Glad things have been better for you since getting your diagnosis. I got mine recently (10 months ago) too but have only told a few select people. I'm a househusband so don't have to deal with ignorant bosses anymore but if I ever had a change in circumstances and had to return to the world of work I'd be quite worried about experiences like you have described.

  • "Deviant Gaze" though! What an absolutely terrible choice of words! I can't decide whether it sounds more like a peeping Tom or an 80's hard-core punk band! (bagsies on the band name - Google couldn't find it!)

    Yep great band name... I can just imagine John Peel's dulcet tones introducing a session by them back in the day! Gimme a shout if you need a guitarist LOL!