Hans Asperger

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/hans-asperger-aided-and-supported-nazi-programme-study-says

I have to say that since I first read Steve Silbermann's book 'Neurotribes' about a year plus ago, I have been wondering if it was entirely the case that Asperger tried to keep his subjects away from the Nazi euthanasia programme. This morning's headline is thus no great surprise. And as Sachs-Cohen and Silbermann have already indicated their belief in the emerging facts, I'm not about to get too emotive about it. Regardless of DSM-5, my diagnostician decided it was still a valid term for an older adult who had lived for some years with some knowledge of that label. And I'm not about to avoid that label, myself. I suppose I might as well be the first person on the forum to ask what happens next, because I would guess that not everyone will be quite so philosophical about it as me. I have to admit, I have never really taken very kindly to 'aspie'. I find it a bit patronising; but I'm now wondering if some of that discomfort is down to the fact that I have sort of half expected that the hero thing was not quite the full story. And Kanner, for all his input, wasn't beyond criticism either.

''Carol Povey, director at the National Autistic Society in the UK’s Centre for Autism, said: “We expect these findings to spark a big conversation among autistic people and their family members, particularly those who identify with the term ‘Asperger’. Obviously no one with a diagnosis of Asperger syndrome should feel in any way tainted by this very troubling history.” 

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  • I think this is a non-story, really.

    Pop quiz:

    Q1) Where did eugenics originate?

    Q2) In what year did the USA cease forcible sterilisation of "mentally defective" individuals?

  • This rather reminds me of that song Where is the love? by the Black Eyed Peas e.g.:

    Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
    But we still got terrorists here livin'
    In the USA, the big CIA
    The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK

    But if you only have love for your own race
    Then you only leave space to discriminate
    And to discriminate only generates hate
    And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah

    The rest of the lyrics can be read here: 

    https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/blackeyedpeas/whereisthelove.html

    It’s funny because whenever I hear that song I think of how relevant it is to the world we live in today, and the world decades ago, but the song was released in 2003, which just goes to prove that the world isn’t really moving on in some aspects. I think it’s really sad, but some people will always hate other types of people and there will always be wars...indeed, where is the love?

  • I think it’s really sad, but some people will always hate other types of people

    Were you implying "neurotypicals" by way of the former? ;)

  • They have stopped  using the label in the USA

    And why should ONE country dictate to the rest of the world which label should be used? A country that is almost alone in measuring temperature in fahrenheit instead of celsius. A country that uses different sized nuts and bolts from the rest of the world that are hard to find replacements in Britain. Don't even get me started about the bizarre election system for the US president where Trump wins despite more people voting for Clinton, or software patents that don't apply in any other country.

    The US really is a weird country that seems to have a passion for doing things differently from the rest of the world. I can't understand why so many Americans are so opposed to dollar coins.

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  • They have stopped  using the label in the USA

    And why should ONE country dictate to the rest of the world which label should be used? A country that is almost alone in measuring temperature in fahrenheit instead of celsius. A country that uses different sized nuts and bolts from the rest of the world that are hard to find replacements in Britain. Don't even get me started about the bizarre election system for the US president where Trump wins despite more people voting for Clinton, or software patents that don't apply in any other country.

    The US really is a weird country that seems to have a passion for doing things differently from the rest of the world. I can't understand why so many Americans are so opposed to dollar coins.

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