Recently diagnosed - No idea who I am any more

your the same person you always were.
and life is rubbish so im amazed depression isnt considered the standard default of life these days.... infact it may actually be as scientists think that depression is what caused human advancement in the first place. perhaps depression is a huge part of sentience and intelligent thought?

I can't believe actual depression would cause human advancement as the result of it is not feeling like doing anything. Depressed people are not in a state to do much about it. I think human advancement was more driven by irritation! When I get sufficiently irritated about something is when I am most likely to do something about it.

aye modern depression you can safely lock yourself up and do nothing and achieve nothing..... depression in ancient times when there is no modern luxuries or safety or entertainment or way to lose ourselves from the world would likely be much different perhaps..... such as becoming a drive for change.

although even now it can have a chance of rolling that drive for change. i never bothered with a job for years but then i did get a period of depression and in depression you think alot and that thinking made me consider i need to get a social life and people do that by getting a job, so it forced me to go against my norm and get a job and thus it advanced me and pushed me in the right direction.... although you can argue it probably was the cause of me actually not getting a job for like 20 years or so in the first place perhaps too lol .....so its a double edged blade that can sway either way in its effect.

aye, it could be that all special historic people that said or did great things were all some product of one personality disorder or another..... i mean, come on, whoever created religion was clearly schizophrenic, seeing and speaking to things that isnt there and convincing others that its real lol

AuTriker said:

I think clinical depression is not the same as not being content with life.

This. These are two quite different things. Though this discussion perhaps could be continued in another thread.

To return toCamille's original post - the "deep dark dissociative space" that you speak of might be temporary. Make a note of when it started - and if it continues for a substantial amount of time, seek help - family, friends, here, and/or professional.

While depression and anxiety might be generally representative of modernity, it does not have to personally be your norm.

I think clinical depression is not the same as not being content with life. Clinically depressed people do not always have life reasons for it. If a person does have actual reasons for being depressed I have heard they sometimes can't get treatment for it!

I think you are right about dissatisfaction being a strong driver. Also about people who think deeply being change-makers and also feeling depressed. But that doesn't mean what is diagnosed as clinical depression is that change-making dissatisfaction. 

What if those deep thinking change-makers were autistic and that is why they were deep thinkers and also why they were depressed?! Isn't Elon Musk autistic?

hardships do promote change though. it took world wars to get human tech level to were it is now....

humans thrive on adversity and negative things.... it takes set backs for us to drive forward.... if everything was always good and smelling of roses we wouldnt have any drive or reason to change or better ourselves, wed have stayed in our caves for eternity happy and content with the way the world and life is.... depression is not being content... and when your not content it drives change and a desire for things to change to create this better world to try make it less rubbish. triumph through adversity is humanities core feature and reason for our more developed brain. depressed people also think on things more and are very reflective and deep thinkers, this deep thinking promotes brain growth and the thought center in the brain.... every single philosopher you may find was depressed, most scientists are likely also very depressed. i bet elon musk is depressed and thinks on life and humanity and reasons to exist alot, which is why he gets driven to selfless expand humanity to try make us a space faring civilisation.

the whole depression part and withdrawl of depression... it is very superficial and common thats its the only part people know without having had it. perhaps depression actually doesnt exist and your actually just seeing the world for how it actually is, ***... and in need of change... and it dawns on you that your too tiny and weak to do any change... but perhaps so much thought you make a personal change instead and perhaps snowball it if your as smart as elon musk and then can make a bigger change. theres alot more to it though than the stereotype soccer mom commonly overused and abused "sad" aspects and tired and withdrawn... but perhaps those aspects thus require self reflection and thought on it which comes from being depressed long term enough to think on it and been through constant never ending cycles of it to the point you then think.... wait a minute.... this now feels good, this makes me feel alive even, accepting it sorta even...  dont take pills, accept it, its natural, its normal, its part of your humanity, it feels good to let it out, it feels good to embrace it, dont run away from it. accept and embrace it and then think more on it, let it carry you in its arms, dont fight the flow of the tide youd only drown, relax and let the tide take you away safely..... or something lol

hardships do promote change though. it took world wars to get human tech level to were it is now....

humans thrive on adversity and negative things.... it takes set backs for us to drive forward.... if everything was always good and smelling of roses we wouldnt have any drive or reason to change or better ourselves, wed have stayed in our caves for eternity happy and content with the way the world and life is.... depression is not being content... and when your not content it drives change and a desire for things to change to create this better world to try make it less rubbish. triumph through adversity is humanities core feature and reason for our more developed brain. depressed people also think on things more and are very reflective and deep thinkers, this deep thinking promotes brain growth and the thought center in the brain.... every single philosopher you may find was depressed, most scientists are likely also very depressed. i bet elon musk is depressed and thinks on life and humanity and reasons to exist alot, which is why he gets driven to selfless expand humanity to try make us a space faring civilisation.

the whole depression part and withdrawl of depression... it is very superficial and common thats its the only part people know without having had it. perhaps depression actually doesnt exist and your actually just seeing the world for how it actually is, ***... and in need of change... and it dawns on you that your too tiny and weak to do any change... but perhaps so much thought you make a personal change instead and perhaps snowball it if your as smart as elon musk and then can make a bigger change. theres alot more to it though than the stereotype soccer mom commonly overused and abused "sad" aspects and tired and withdrawn... but perhaps those aspects thus require self reflection and thought on it which comes from being depressed long term enough to think on it and been through constant never ending cycles of it to the point you then think.... wait a minute.... this now feels good, this makes me feel alive even, accepting it sorta even...  dont take pills, accept it, its natural, its normal, its part of your humanity, it feels good to let it out, it feels good to embrace it, dont run away from it. accept and embrace it and then think more on it, let it carry you in its arms, dont fight the flow of the tide youd only drown, relax and let the tide take you away safely..... or something lol

aye, it could be that all special historic people that said or did great things were all some product of one personality disorder or another..... i mean, come on, whoever created religion was clearly schizophrenic, seeing and speaking to things that isnt there and convincing others that its real lol

AuTriker said:

I think clinical depression is not the same as not being content with life.

This. These are two quite different things. Though this discussion perhaps could be continued in another thread.

To return toCamille's original post - the "deep dark dissociative space" that you speak of might be temporary. Make a note of when it started - and if it continues for a substantial amount of time, seek help - family, friends, here, and/or professional.

While depression and anxiety might be generally representative of modernity, it does not have to personally be your norm.

I think clinical depression is not the same as not being content with life. Clinically depressed people do not always have life reasons for it. If a person does have actual reasons for being depressed I have heard they sometimes can't get treatment for it!

I think you are right about dissatisfaction being a strong driver. Also about people who think deeply being change-makers and also feeling depressed. But that doesn't mean what is diagnosed as clinical depression is that change-making dissatisfaction. 

What if those deep thinking change-makers were autistic and that is why they were deep thinkers and also why they were depressed?! Isn't Elon Musk autistic?