OCD? Autism? Arghhh!

Hi. We have massive escalating problem with our 8 year old son. He got his diagnosis of autism at age 3, has been in a brilliant unit for autistic children since starting primary school. He has always had very controlling behaviours at home but lately his anxieties, controlling tendencies and urges to do certain things have been sprialling out of control. The main thing that has me and his dad at a loss is these 'links' or 'chains' in his mind that he is creating... basically, 'If I do this, I can't do that' - it can affect everything he tries to do during the day but it does all seem to be linked to being the 'leader' at school at moment (the child that leads in and out from lunch each day) - the school are aware and we're trying to create a photo social story. I've also asked for a re-referral to the CDC as I have done studies in autism, work with pre-school autistic children and am a mum to one and yet this compulsive kind of thinking feels like something else. He also can NOT control the urge to copy. This has been the way since he was 2 but again, lately has soared. This can be anything from copying me putting my feet on the coffee table to flushing the toilet. He likes to be the first to do things (like turning the light on) and if he can't he has to click his own disconnected clicker that makes the same noise. Same with birds singing outside - they drive him mad and despite wearing ear defenders and having all windows shut, he has to go and grab his toy bird that tweets and make his own 'tweet' sounds to compensate for him not being in control of the noises outside. I know these issues all overlap common autism traits (sensory/controlling environment etc) but I have a real sense that I am handling it all wrongly. I feel alone in this and so would truly love another parent out there to say, 'We have this at home too!' even if you don't know exactly what or why it is! Thanks for reading. x

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  • Former Member
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    Odd thought here. Is this controlling behaviour part of the normal child development phase of magical thinking but manifesting with a peculiar ASD spin?

    I know when I got severe anxiety a couple of years ago one of the patterns that kept appearing in my thinking was a form of magical thinking, that I knew was totally irrational but it kept coming back and it did feel like OCD.

    Has something happened recently that could have escalated his anxiety and could that be making sensory stuff and copying more prominent? Do you think he would have the developmental skills where you could start using something like mindfulness to help him manage being overwhelmed.

    I was very surprised to get a strong positive response to a mindfulness technique for an NT girl aged 8 who had some dietary anxiety after a diagnosis of coeliac disease. I got her to breathe a soothing color (she chose purple) all through her body when she got panicked about there not being safe foods for her to eat in new places.

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  • Former Member
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    Odd thought here. Is this controlling behaviour part of the normal child development phase of magical thinking but manifesting with a peculiar ASD spin?

    I know when I got severe anxiety a couple of years ago one of the patterns that kept appearing in my thinking was a form of magical thinking, that I knew was totally irrational but it kept coming back and it did feel like OCD.

    Has something happened recently that could have escalated his anxiety and could that be making sensory stuff and copying more prominent? Do you think he would have the developmental skills where you could start using something like mindfulness to help him manage being overwhelmed.

    I was very surprised to get a strong positive response to a mindfulness technique for an NT girl aged 8 who had some dietary anxiety after a diagnosis of coeliac disease. I got her to breathe a soothing color (she chose purple) all through her body when she got panicked about there not being safe foods for her to eat in new places.

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  • Hi - thanks very much for replying. Magical thinking is a completely unfamiliar term/concept to me so thank you for highlighting a new possibility. I shall have to try and read up on it a bit. I have been given  he number of a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist for children but I think my son is perhaps too young (psychologically and emotionally) to go down this road yet. I love Mindfulness and have myself just completed an 8 week course in it and it is definitely something I will consider for him in the future.

    We call these thoughts that he groups together 'chains' and we draw them on to a pad to try and externalise them a bit and then see if there's any way we can break the chains. It has worked with one 'chain' but the leader chain is still a big problem. 

    He did move up to a new class (key stage 2 specialist class) in September at school but it is an autism unit with highly trained teachers but even so - it is the only big change in his life that has occurred since these behaviours have escalated. Plus he stayed with same children in the unit that he has always been with.

    I feel so bad a lot of the time as his dad thinks I let him play the 'autism card' too much, rather than him being in genuine overload/distress. I think it is a bit of both. It takes a lot of patience every day and sometimes I feel at the end of my tether - not knowing if I should be ignoring/supporting/remonstrating.

    He has started wearing ear defenders that he has not used since he was 3 also, quite regularly. I wonder sometimes if this is just autism and associated anxieties that go with developing awareness and that actually I should just buckle down for a long ride because although i want to help him, perhaps I can't. Thanks again for your advice and understanding X