Concerns regarding teen access to illicit apps (Warning: Sensitive subject)

The Guardian article on teen access to “Nudify Apps”

I apologize for bringing up a sensitive subject, but I came across this news article and given this community’s common threads regarding ties between Autism and AI I assumed this would be pertinent to share.

I have a major concern in general for how American teens are taught (or rather, not taught) about the role of consent in sexuality, and I believe that it is a topic that needs to be clearly defined to young Autistic men in particular. Autistic teens struggle with many social concepts, with the idea of clear consent being possibly one of those concepts.

If you happen to be a parent to an Autistic preteen/teen (regardless of gender / sexual identity), I implore you to have the difficult discussion of what “Nudify Apps” are and why they are horribly immoral. Not only that, but there’s the likelihood that images generated from it could get possessors in serious legal trouble.

I can see Autistic male teens in particular not understanding that if someone is unaware that you have sexually explicit material of them, that does not mean you are exempt from needing consent from them.

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  • I think a general conversation needs to be had about tech use because autistic people esspiecaly are at risk of explotation and extemestist views and when they research things they are net with echo chambers 

    To think people are going to vote and are being influenced by the internet is scary because the echo chambers focus on the bad things good people do which are not that bad but get blown out of proportion and vice versa 

    But to bring it back to these apps I gaurnetre peopke research them and people on reddit or what ever will make out they are good but the way I see it they are a gateway to deprivity and worse crimes 

  • I don't think its just autistic people who are vulnerable although it does add another layer to being vulnerable, but young people are being way to easily influenced by what they see online. So many boys watch strangulation porn that they think half strangling a partner during sex is "normal" and girls don't know they can not consent to it as they're being told its normal too and theres something wrong with them for not wanting it.

    I remember when you chose how to vote from what you were told on TV or by newspapers, or even because thats how people like you always voted, was that really better? I don't think it was, but I also don't think that getting everything from social media's good either. People need to be able to hear all sides and proper debate not rows, stunts and stupidity and Nigel Farage never having been so offended in his life, poor thing must walk around in a constant state of offence!

    One of the things I find interesting as an historian, is that people said the same about the introduction of the printing press, printing in the vernacular so that everyone could understand it and didn't need it mediated by educated others, (priests usually) and that so many more people were becoming literate or at least able to read vernacular languages and not Latin which was the previous standard for literacy.

    I don't know what the answers are though, recognising a lesson from history isn't the same as knowing what it is or how to apply it

  • So many boys watch strangulation porn that they think half strangling a partner during sex is "normal" and girls don't know they can not consent to it as they're being told its normal too and theres something wrong with them for not wanting it.

    Exactly. Yes, we need better education on this for teens of all genders/identities/abilities. However here in the States (likely your side of the ocean, too) there are religious types that fear education on safe sex and consent will lead to an explosion of teenage sexual activity. Unfortunately, I don’t think they realize that there’s always been an explosion of teenage sexual activity, it’s just less safe without the right education.

  • there are religious types that fear education on safe sex and consent will lead to an explosion of teenage sexual activity

    When it comes to religion, Northern Ireland is in a different league to the rest of the UK and to Ireland as a whole. More people here identify as Christians than any other part of the UK. Like most subjects here, school sex education is a divisive. Most of our state schools are divided into Catholic and Protestant schools, although Integrated Schools (for those of any and no religion) are also in some towns and cities. The subject of School Sex Education was in the news a few months ago and one of the political arguments was that too ‘explicit’ Sex Education is harmful because it makes young people unable to tell the difference between moral and immoral behaviour. 

    I do agree with you that the right education is important. I don’t think that portrayal of nudity in sex education materials is in itself harmful. Images should serve the purpose of sex education and should portray the ‘right tone’ and message. 

  • I think the religious types aren't really part of the general conversation here on this side of the pond, I'm sure they go on about it within their own spaces but largely thats not a public one. I think here its wrapped up in the whole debate around online safety rather than specifically sexual safety.

    I don't know where people get the idea that if you don't tell teenagers about sex then they won't do it? But then its part of that whole religious things that I really don't understand, like how abortion is wrong but capital punishment is OK, the sanctity of life only applies in certain situations, is there an age when it's OK to start killing people or something?

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  • I think the religious types aren't really part of the general conversation here on this side of the pond, I'm sure they go on about it within their own spaces but largely thats not a public one. I think here its wrapped up in the whole debate around online safety rather than specifically sexual safety.

    I don't know where people get the idea that if you don't tell teenagers about sex then they won't do it? But then its part of that whole religious things that I really don't understand, like how abortion is wrong but capital punishment is OK, the sanctity of life only applies in certain situations, is there an age when it's OK to start killing people or something?

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