Problems with the younger generation

I had a bit of a strange experience the other day it kind of reminded me of school. I'm riding my bike along a track, I slow to let two people pass.two young ish girls 18 one of whom started waving their arms about, pulling faces and making mental disability sounds at me. Although it didn't affect me much I still stop every time this happens to consider how people can be so ignorant. And how people make these judgements (to behave that way) on sight.

I've been thinking a lot about the internet lately and particularly those people who were born after it was created. I have encountered a lot of young adults around that generation, some I have spoken to seem plain rude and seem to think they know everything. I'm thinking those born in ai now will have even bigger problems and be even more complacent.

The correct terms are Digital Natives (those born after the internet was created) and AI Natives (those born after AI was born).

Maybe this sounds like I'm a bit out of touch.

  • These ones attitudes are a lot like their parents. Entitlement is right, the entire workplace and retail industry orbits around it. The problem is the sense that they need to reproduce young so girls are being forced into splitting their genes with anything that comes along. They think they are making decisions, really they are just being coerced. We are all being coerced in a sense by industry and advertising, not human values of decency.

  • do not blame the gun that shot the victim is what I'll say. 

    I remember well in the 80s that every construction site (and most of them weren't heavily fenced up as they are today) had a sign saying 'no playing. Parents are responsable for their children.'

  • With people like that I'm just glad I don't live in their heads!

  • I will disagree on the rod, but sanctions still hold their justified place in education. 

    I don't think that the modern view of parenting 'praise when good, negotiate when not' will guarantee a good crop in the orchard, unless you're fond of brambles. 

  • I would need to see the slightest evidence that videos are circulating on social media telling kids to actively cruel or disrespectful to others. Unless they are the meanest ones propagating hate.

    I think it is that this is the first generation that was told 'you can be anything you want to be and do anything you want to do' without the caveat 'but don't expect that if you cross boundaries, and that includes hogging shared resources and areas, you're not going to get repercussions'. 

    My daily walks sadly reconfirm it, having to squeeze myself against hedges and walls, or jump onto the road, when a parent with two kids on their tricycles come the other way, all walking abreast. The embarrassment in the eyes of the parents, the fleeting 'thank you' or 'sorry' of the parent, and the empty stare in the child's look trying to figure out what to do say it all.

    I was brought up to think ahead before acting. If you're using the pavement, there are others who use it too. You're the user, not the owner, so behave accordingly. Do not even walk side by side unless you can there is nobody coming your way for as far as you can see, because just by acting that way is causing an inconvenience. Prepare your children for situations that are very likely to happen, so they know immediately how to avoid inconveniences others. If you're outside, look ahead, not down, use a phone or whatever draws your attention away from what is ahead of you only for the absolutely necessary. This did not ruin my life, this did not give me 'mental health', this made me a person. 

  • I think social media has alot to answer for. The influence it has had on current gen is insane. And it influences the parents too. This gen are about as desensitised as it gets from it all. And the entitlement of this gen is also at ridiculous levels

    Add all that to what you get with alot of the younger crowd in general with the attitudes, the cockyness and feeling untouchable. Its a recipe for a really sh*tty demo

  • it's less the issue of sitting kids in front of the internet that's the issue as the total hands off no-pro-active attitude towards education, and then wonder how we all got into this carnage. 

  • Twas ever thus:

    Youth were never more sawcie, yea never more savagely saucie . . . the ancient are scorned, the honourable are contemned, the magistrate is not dreaded. (Thomas Barnes, 17th century)

    …a fearful multitude of untutored savages… [boys] with dogs at their heels and other evidence of dissolute habits…[girls who] drive coal-carts, ride astride upon horses, drink, swear, fight, smoke, whistle, and care for nobody…the morals of children are tenfold worse than formerly. (Anthony Ashley Cooper, 19th century)

    We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish. (Hull Daily Mail, 1920s)

  • Wow, I'm amazed, I htought you didn't like me! But I'm glad you value my opinion on this.

    My friend had to buy a new telly and they're so compicated and have to have so many ports and cables, all this s supposed to make our lives easier, what was wrong with plugging in a plug and an arial. Ok I know we only had a few channels etc, but things do seem way to complicated for simple things. I just want to watch telly and not have to worry about if I've got the right screen and number of pixels etc.

  • I don't think this is new. I have seen this sort of behaviour from teenagers my whole life. The use of screens, internet and ai will bring it's own problems but teens thinking they know everything is pretty standard!

  • Is sitting children in fornt of the internet spoiling them or simply bad parenting? Everything starts somewhere.

  • yes I think peer pressuere is a big part of why it is mostly not addressed. Yes some do have a very strong sense of morality,speaking up and saying what you think does not always stand you in good stead in group situations. Unless the rest of the group are behaving that way of course.

  • I think many young people would have been made aware that certain types of behaviours are wrong yet they disregard that. Definitely, the right type of peer pressure can influence young people and make them stop and think before they act in such an appalling way. Education around this needs to start when children are very young and parents/guardians need to be encouraged to be involved in their children’s education with schools from the beginning. I know this is already happening in many schools yet some young people fail to take positive messages on board.

  • I'm just noticing a lot more agression walking around, its not like its even confined to people sitting behind their windscreen honking. Its like everyone is miserable muttering obscenties. Venting their frustration on everyone. I don't know what the one underlying reason for this is. At the same time there are good people, someone may be feeling stress or frustration rather than kicking someone for personal gratification.

    Mothers in the 80s were being told all kinds of things. I do think i would have been diagnosed sooner if divergence was a buzzword, but I always loved being me. That is the thing now because even knowing now I have ASD I know I'm totally me. inimitable. We all are.

    I agree, its dangerous out there for people who have a vulnerabiity because of the people who want to take from them. When I actually think about the risk, maybe its low, it could be pure chance whether you bump into someone who is going to cause trouble. Generally though these people wont be in certain places at certain times (like 7am).

    The only thing I have learned about bullies is the not to allow them trick. Or entertaining them with a response which could provoke them further. I see it as a problem where society turns a blind eye to the extent where its normalised. More generally it seems to be an evolution of a certain kind of behaviour at this point in time, where people think its osmehow more socially acceptable to behave in a hostile way and pass it off as banter. Again this might just be my take at the age I am.

  • I know, Nothing was said.  I still always seem to look for why people do stuff like this. Some times I'm thick skinned other times less so. 

  • Yeah, I don't really understand it to be honest, it'll be complex to each, but you see it so often. I mean, why be nasty to another person? I hope those girls feel like idiots later on when they look back on their silly behaviour towards you.

  • Thank you we need to call it out. But really young people need to call it out sooner amoungst themselves.

  • I needed your opinion on this because secretly I believe we are quite alike;. I love analogue and utiliatarian things. I miss buying whole albums and not having to look at screens all the time.

  • There is a part of me that thinks a lot of this is to do with values, those past on from parents to children. But it may harder for some people to prevent themselves from displaying intolerance(?).

  • I do think you are right, and it is awful to see your politeness being met with such horrid behaviour. 

    I would say there are some people that are like that their whole lives though, and it can be the other way round. When I was 20, me and my youngest sibling had an older women sit on our bags and pull a knife on us on a bus because she decided she didn't like us. She spat on my little brothers hair and said he liked l looked like a boy, which he was, and only 12. I think some people enjoy being nasty to others.