11 year old mean to other children

Hello, this is my first time posting and am really looking for some advice/support.  I feel like I'm failing my Son as I don't know what I'm doing.  I feel like I have no filter when it comes to telling my Son the reasons why this is happening and am no good at putting things across gently.  Basically, my Son has no friends, he has been diagnosed with autism and his main difficulty is maintaining friendships and relationships.  He was in a group of friends and struggled with the pecking order within the group and would often do silly things to get himself noticed or to get a laugh.  Since a new child has joined this group, his nose has been pushed out of joint and has been bullying this child, to the extent no one wants him as a friend.  Some of the boys have knocked on the door to tell him no one wants to play with him, which is down right cruel.  After a particularly difficult evening just now, where he has been quite verbally aggressive, he's been told this is the reason he has no friends, if this is the way he speaks to people, he goes on then to brag how he's decked a younger child, and I get angry with this type of behaviour and tell him if he carries on the way he's going he will be the one that will get decked as he calls it as no one likes a bully, and that he has no friends because of this sort of behaviour.  He knows right from wrong and to treat people how he would like to be treated.  I feel like we are to blame, me and his Dad as we are no good at sugar coating things, we say it how it is, he has to be held accountable for his actions.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm swimming in treacle right now. 

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  • me and his Dad as we are no good at sugar coating things, we say it how it is, he has to be held accountable for his actions. 

    This can be a challenge in todays culture where you get so judged on any sort of "tough love" including pointing out they are being mean and god help you if you consider any form of punishment.

    I help autistic 17-18 year olds where I live as they make the transition from school to either education or the working world and I often have to be very direct in telling them the consequences of their actions.

    My approach is to take them to one side and out of any active situation, let them cool off a bit and ask them to recount what just happened. I'll then query the details until I'm sure I know what they thing happened and then I'll retell the situation from the other parties point of view and ask where the other party is in the wrong.

    By disengaging from the heat of the situation and analysing it there is often a way to reflect that shows their actions were inappropriate and/or hurtful. If they can admit it then great - we move onto working out how it should have gone and I can role play the other party to let them try it again - only relevant when they were in the wrong of course.

    Being brutaly blunt with them but viewing it with them from outside I find they absorb the lesson much more readily.

    he goes on then to brag how he's decked a younger child, and I get angry with this type of behaviour and tell him if he carries on the way he's going he will be the one that will get decked as he calls it as no one likes a bully

    Maybe make him sit down and think through what the consequences have been and are likely to grow into. Many autists don't understand the rules of social engagement and can easily react in ways that cause friction such as he has here.

    If you can keep it dispassionate, factual and educational then he may appreciate this knowledge transfer. If you are autistic yourself then chances are you are not well equipped to do this as well as a neurotypical so perhaps another person can do this for you - partner, close relative etc.

    Once he gets to realise there is someone he can learn these important skills from them chances are he will go back for more, but a trust needs to be built there and as you are the parent / discipline bringer then you are in a slightly grey area.

    Cudos for reaching out for advice.

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  • me and his Dad as we are no good at sugar coating things, we say it how it is, he has to be held accountable for his actions. 

    This can be a challenge in todays culture where you get so judged on any sort of "tough love" including pointing out they are being mean and god help you if you consider any form of punishment.

    I help autistic 17-18 year olds where I live as they make the transition from school to either education or the working world and I often have to be very direct in telling them the consequences of their actions.

    My approach is to take them to one side and out of any active situation, let them cool off a bit and ask them to recount what just happened. I'll then query the details until I'm sure I know what they thing happened and then I'll retell the situation from the other parties point of view and ask where the other party is in the wrong.

    By disengaging from the heat of the situation and analysing it there is often a way to reflect that shows their actions were inappropriate and/or hurtful. If they can admit it then great - we move onto working out how it should have gone and I can role play the other party to let them try it again - only relevant when they were in the wrong of course.

    Being brutaly blunt with them but viewing it with them from outside I find they absorb the lesson much more readily.

    he goes on then to brag how he's decked a younger child, and I get angry with this type of behaviour and tell him if he carries on the way he's going he will be the one that will get decked as he calls it as no one likes a bully

    Maybe make him sit down and think through what the consequences have been and are likely to grow into. Many autists don't understand the rules of social engagement and can easily react in ways that cause friction such as he has here.

    If you can keep it dispassionate, factual and educational then he may appreciate this knowledge transfer. If you are autistic yourself then chances are you are not well equipped to do this as well as a neurotypical so perhaps another person can do this for you - partner, close relative etc.

    Once he gets to realise there is someone he can learn these important skills from them chances are he will go back for more, but a trust needs to be built there and as you are the parent / discipline bringer then you are in a slightly grey area.

    Cudos for reaching out for advice.

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