Can't find a specialist autism school for science A levels

Hi everybody,

I am looking for a specialist residential provision for autism that supports A levels in maths, physics and chemistry. I think this may be impossible. Please prove me wrong!

My son is 18 years old and has had a disrupted education since year 8 when he was exited from mainstream. He attended a PRU until year 11; they supported some education but at too low a level for him, so the council provided tuition in the school. This was only very part-time. He came out with Entry Level GCSEs in physics and chemistry at a very high level 5 (well above the grade boundary, but it's capped at a 5) and maths at grade 7. Since then the council has supported further tuition in various places though his EHCP. We have tried the following:

- Online education via King's Interhigh to resit GCSEs at the higher level. This didn't really work, my son needs somebody with him to encourage him to engage and sort out any IT issues. (Both my partner and I work part-time, and don't have time to educate him ourselves.) Also we really didn't like the online system for exams, though he did come out with a grade 7 in physics.

- Tuition provided by the council, based in a newly opened autism unit in a local mainstream school. I was hoping the school would allow him to try out mainstream classes and access the science labs from time to time, but they didn't, and wouldn't enrol him as a pupil in the school. Consequently, all he was allowed to do was sit in one room with his tutors, with no interaction with other kids. Unfortunately the school has now told us it needs the room and my son has had tuition based at home since Easter. So again, no interaction with other kids and no access to science practicals.

- We have visited the two other autism units that are in driving distance and my son couldn't access the buildings.

My son has extreme sensory avoidance to smells, which is very hard to manage in public buildings and also means he can't access a taxi. He is also very sociable (though doesn't always know hoe to go about this). There is one local school where he was able to access the science labs, but they didn't have a small intervention room for him to have 1:1 support at other times. He is also developing some potentially serious metal health issues around aversion to "contamination", which is on a trajectory getting worse, not better. He rarely goes out of the house any more and is usually grumpy.

He is now 18 and a short way through A levels in maths, physics and chemistry. His (twin) brother will be leaving for university in September so I feel my autisic son could be ready for residential education, which could give him the interaction and therapeutic support he desperately needs. Starting the curriculum from scratch wouldn't be a problem. However I am struggling to find anywhere that can do this as well as support A levels. It is as though he is too autistic for anywhere that supports high-level education and too academic for anywhere that supports autism. We live in Milton Keynes and it seems to be an autism school desert.

Please help!

Many thanks

  • This approach isn't quite what I think you hoped to find - but it might offer some ideas of another way to make science A Levels available to your son.

    Some exam boards accept "private candidates" to sit A Levels e.g. when students have been home schooled / completed self study or adults have studied via distance learning. 

    The Joint Council for Qualifications (JCQ) has an online tool where you can locate exam centres offering this exam facility to Private Candidates:

    https://www.jcq.org.uk/private-candidates/

    The JCQ also have produced a PDF download "Reasonable Adjustments for GCE A-Level Sciences – Endorsement of practical skills" which might help you to compile a list of things to ask a school / college / university / tutor:

    https://www.jcq.org.uk/exams-office/non-examination-assessments/reasonable-adjustments-for-gce-a-level-sciencesendorsement-of-practical-skills/

    On the same webpage; I thought this paragraph may offer some hope and reasonable management of expectations around the "the art of the possible":

    "The SENCo (Special Educational Needs Co-ordinator) will work with teaching staff, and where necessary senior leaders, to determine access arrangements which are both appropriate and reasonable in the context of the Practical Endorsement."

  • I wish I could be more help to you. The schools that specialise in autism in my surrounding areas do not offer a levels at all unfortunately.

  • Yes I agree with this- we have fume cabinets in our lab and they definitely don't block out smells that well. However, I think in a lot of the science disciplines, including biology and chemistry, there are also many opportunities for dry lab work and there is also a need for people with computational skills- not sure if that is something he might also enjoy? 

  • I think you're overestimating the efficacy of some fume hoods. I am just finishing up a natural sciences degree and did Chemistry in first year. The reason I stopped was partly due to the smells causing headaches, and although I'm hypersensitive to smells, I suspect I'm still not as sensitive as your son.

    Physics is much better. I struggled a little with some sounds particularly things like x-ray based imaging in materials science, but earplugs are much better designed than noseplugs in my experience. 

  • Hi, I am deeply saddened to read this - it is unacceptable that it is so hard to find adequate support. Unfortunately I don’t have a solution (I’m not so familiar with UK system prior to university) but as an autistic scientist I just want to express my support. I am autistic and I studied natural sciences at university and am now doing a PhD in neuroscience. Most of my friends are scientists and are also neurodivergent. Autistic individuals can make great scientists (attention to detail, hyperfocus etc helps). And if your son enjoys the sciences, these can be great subjects. And I do think some universities can be quite autism friendly (mine was and it was easier for me to fit in and navigate it than school). I really hope you manage to find a solution- I will ask my scientist friends in UK if anyone has any ideas. I really hope you find a solution. Don’t give up. 

  • Thank you, this is really helpful.

  • Thank you, I will take a look. I think the main difference with online experiments is that they work! So you don't get to practice problem-solving for the messy real world.

  • Try the open university or look at some of the less reputable universities that don't insist on science A levels because they offer foundation years if one has unorthodox entry qualifications. 

  • Physics is something that lends itself to distance learning. Seeing the experiments on video is not a hindrance. MIT degree lectures are available online for free, or were. I watched a quite a few.

    If you want some fun, watch this series of Walter Lewis lectures. It's very good.

    Without an A level it won't all make sense, but you can ignore that and just enjoy the experiments.

    youtube.com/playlist

  • Indeed, light, electromagnetism, radio, some crystallography and play with a cloud chamber (if you're allowed to do that any more).

    I don't know if there' much electronics in it these days, I just had a dodgy op amp to contend with.

  • There are some schools that state on their websites that they offer science A levels. Gretton (Cambridge), Swalcliffe Park. I visited Gretton and they are not currently offering chemistry or physics and will only do so if there is "enough demand". What I'd like to find out is what other schools might be out there that are similar to those two, so I can investigate them.

  • Agreed, it's difficult. But perhaps not impossible: the school where he was able to access a class had a relatively new science block with, I think, climate control (ie air con). State sector. 

    I also know that is is perfectly possible to be a professional chemist without encountering smells. Fume cupboards abound in professional labs. However I suspect that physics will be his thing - physics labs are usually not smelly.

  • I don't want to be negative, but A level chemistry will be hard to do with no smells. A lot of organic chemistry has strong and distinctive smells. Carbon based stuff is about half the curriculum I would guess.

    I don't know if it would be possible to do from theory only. The practical element is part of it.

  • I think the very iintelligent suffer at school regardless of whether they're NT or ND, the system just isn't set up for them, all schools really seem to care about is exam results. It's such a waste for everyone, understimulated children can be just as disruptive in class as over stimualted ones, streaming was supposed to deal with this, but dosen't seem too, where do you go when your top of the class in the top stream? If you are diagnosed with a learning difficulty, then it seems to be assumed that it covers all areas of learning, when in fact you might be terrible at one or two subjects and brilliant at others.

    I agree that presure needs to be put on government, but then that would mean having to think, spend money and change things, none of which governments seem to be very good at. Another thing I think worth mentioning is snobbery, poor or SEND kids aren't supposed to do well, middle class and rich kids are and there will be much more effort put into their underperfomance than that of children from less well off backgrounds.

  • Unfortunately, SEN education is largely set up for lower ability learners. It is a huge problem and leaves a large number of children and young people exactly as you say - stuck between not being able to access mainstream and being too academic for a specialist setting. I wish I had advice but I do not know your area and I know it is a problem in most areas. I can only suggest that you keep on at your local authority for an appropriate provision. I'd also recommend raising the issue with your MP. This is unlikely to fix the issue for your son but it will support other parents that are facing similar issues. Pressure needs to be put on the government to fix this issue.