Advice for autistic teen who overthinks and then spirals

Hi all, my 16 year old daughter has just been diagnosed as ASD. She us generally OK socially and academically but tends to spiral at the slightest setback and spirals down, with it affecting her mood cor whole days.

Can anyone point me in the direction of webites or books that might help her to work on this?

We are just a few days away from GCSEs and she has gone into school tearful and distressed because her friend has changed plans for Friday night!

Any advice?

Thank you.

Parents
  • This is completely normal autistic expression. Are the downward 'spirals' always related (in some capacity) to social and social-interpersonal struggles?

    Smash cut edits, sudden unplanned transitions will cause distress. You can help her learn to manage what she Expects from others. If one friend is consistently inconsistent, learn to expect and make room for that or don't make plans with them if you can remember. As we get 'stuck in the moment' - Right Brain thinking, and already have trouble with Left brain planning/executive function, creating new conscious habits are really difficult. 

    This is partly due to what the Bayesian Theory describes as a difficult predicting social patterns. It is not 'Sameness' we need exactly, this is a surface quality which can be easier than the underlying principle of Dependability. 

    The second Autistic difference that is completely normal is being far more intensely impacted, so feeling deflated or let down feels like the world is definitely over. My father and I are always LOL-ing hysterically at Marvin (hitchhikers guide) who makes Eyesore look like a day in the park. Because the internal experience can be that extreme. The other thing to note is that it can feel like we are always invaded, always vulnerable and this is because we're not filtering out incoming signals the same, so it is incredibly difficult to learn external habits of creating health boundaries with others. 

    What she can use is probably a good few books on how the world should work, and how it actually does work. Sometimes the best idea can be to sit in a bookstore and see what books on the nature of being human, the self-help section, the psychology section she might find of interest. The only way out is through. And the better we understand the social world around in contrast to our own differences (the intense impact, severe difficulty with transitions), the more prepared we'll be for what we encounter.

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  • This is completely normal autistic expression. Are the downward 'spirals' always related (in some capacity) to social and social-interpersonal struggles?

    Smash cut edits, sudden unplanned transitions will cause distress. You can help her learn to manage what she Expects from others. If one friend is consistently inconsistent, learn to expect and make room for that or don't make plans with them if you can remember. As we get 'stuck in the moment' - Right Brain thinking, and already have trouble with Left brain planning/executive function, creating new conscious habits are really difficult. 

    This is partly due to what the Bayesian Theory describes as a difficult predicting social patterns. It is not 'Sameness' we need exactly, this is a surface quality which can be easier than the underlying principle of Dependability. 

    The second Autistic difference that is completely normal is being far more intensely impacted, so feeling deflated or let down feels like the world is definitely over. My father and I are always LOL-ing hysterically at Marvin (hitchhikers guide) who makes Eyesore look like a day in the park. Because the internal experience can be that extreme. The other thing to note is that it can feel like we are always invaded, always vulnerable and this is because we're not filtering out incoming signals the same, so it is incredibly difficult to learn external habits of creating health boundaries with others. 

    What she can use is probably a good few books on how the world should work, and how it actually does work. Sometimes the best idea can be to sit in a bookstore and see what books on the nature of being human, the self-help section, the psychology section she might find of interest. The only way out is through. And the better we understand the social world around in contrast to our own differences (the intense impact, severe difficulty with transitions), the more prepared we'll be for what we encounter.

Children
  • She will need to know that in non-autistic social groups, flexible planning isn't intentionally cruel. I think A Field Guide to Earthlings has a section on this. 

    According to Jung, most will experience a feeling of being too connected, too much like everyone else. It's part of the Jungian Mask and the internal experience of what is now termed "NeuroTypical". It is a polar opposite experience to being Autistic and often feeling disconnected, isolated or even marginalised for even trying to fit in. This is where the Double Empathy Problem comes from - a majority who might be stuck in a particular bias, prohibiting the ability to ask why someone is a little bit 'odd' or different and not intuitively social.