do u think it would help if we could all do this?

having spent so much time on this forum the one thing that stands out more than anything is the lack of support from the government and authorities who seem to be letting families and children down who are in desparate need of help, i was talking to my mum on the phone about it and she suggested some how we all stand together on this and fight as its more likely to be heard than fighting individually , any thoughts on this? Eg writting to MPs etc.

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  • And something else bothers me. There really is very little information up front about what these modules contain: four fairly similarly worded course outcomes, and some brief hints at interactive functions, really does not tell potential customers much.

    On the other hand £24 per module is relatively cheap, and as it is price per module, someone could try them out by just buying one. But there's nothing to say that picking one of the later modules you could try independently of the others.

    As a lecturer myself I spent years writing and marketing teaching products for self-directed study and remote study. I was also on panels for Foundation Degree Frameworks and 14-19 Diploma. There's a really difficult decision to be made how much you say about the modules without giving away enough for someone else to guess the content and replicate.

    Indeed one argument says you lay a lot of detail on the line, but make it apparent that to benefit from the material, you need the paid for components. And if it is interactive material that's difficult to replicate, video clips and other personal info, that's not easy to replicate, why not be more generous with the in-between content?

    What I do know is, if you market a "pig in a poke" - and I'm sorry to be blunt but as they stand these are "pig in a poke" modules - people may be disinclined to gamble. After all NAS isn't necessarily that highly regarded, if you look at what else is going on.

    On the other hand if you market too cheap, there's nothing to stop a pirate buying a module, replicating the easily copyable stuff and generating their own versions of the video clips and personal experiences. So why be so secretive?

    Also, how do people with knowledge assess if NAS is doing the right thing - not withstanding they are blowing their own trumpet pretty loud, without having to buy.

    Is NAS sending free modules to friendly critics to corroborate NAS's own good opinion of themselves in other media?

    I recall, trying to sell a course to a company to teach their staff in house using our material, after a lot of soul searching, we let them peruse all the module texts. After a lot of provaricating, when it was looking good, suddenly they declined to take the matter further.

    Our managers quickly got scared and we had to ask for all the course materials to be returned. The company protested that we shouldn't be so suspicious and were slow returning the stuff. We know they photocopied the lot, and used it discretely. But what can you do, if you are trying to sell courses?

    So aren't NAS being a bit petty saying hardly anything about the content? Or maybe they end up sitting on these for months and months because nobody will buy. It happens.

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  • And something else bothers me. There really is very little information up front about what these modules contain: four fairly similarly worded course outcomes, and some brief hints at interactive functions, really does not tell potential customers much.

    On the other hand £24 per module is relatively cheap, and as it is price per module, someone could try them out by just buying one. But there's nothing to say that picking one of the later modules you could try independently of the others.

    As a lecturer myself I spent years writing and marketing teaching products for self-directed study and remote study. I was also on panels for Foundation Degree Frameworks and 14-19 Diploma. There's a really difficult decision to be made how much you say about the modules without giving away enough for someone else to guess the content and replicate.

    Indeed one argument says you lay a lot of detail on the line, but make it apparent that to benefit from the material, you need the paid for components. And if it is interactive material that's difficult to replicate, video clips and other personal info, that's not easy to replicate, why not be more generous with the in-between content?

    What I do know is, if you market a "pig in a poke" - and I'm sorry to be blunt but as they stand these are "pig in a poke" modules - people may be disinclined to gamble. After all NAS isn't necessarily that highly regarded, if you look at what else is going on.

    On the other hand if you market too cheap, there's nothing to stop a pirate buying a module, replicating the easily copyable stuff and generating their own versions of the video clips and personal experiences. So why be so secretive?

    Also, how do people with knowledge assess if NAS is doing the right thing - not withstanding they are blowing their own trumpet pretty loud, without having to buy.

    Is NAS sending free modules to friendly critics to corroborate NAS's own good opinion of themselves in other media?

    I recall, trying to sell a course to a company to teach their staff in house using our material, after a lot of soul searching, we let them peruse all the module texts. After a lot of provaricating, when it was looking good, suddenly they declined to take the matter further.

    Our managers quickly got scared and we had to ask for all the course materials to be returned. The company protested that we shouldn't be so suspicious and were slow returning the stuff. We know they photocopied the lot, and used it discretely. But what can you do, if you are trying to sell courses?

    So aren't NAS being a bit petty saying hardly anything about the content? Or maybe they end up sitting on these for months and months because nobody will buy. It happens.

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