Struggling to engage a student

We are struggling to engage a student, she is refusing all work and to go in any classrooms including working with staff.

She will not do work in a separate room, garden, with staff, by herself or with favorite staff. It's a big no from her. She won't even go into the classroom to listen to see what she will be learning. She is more than capable of the work. 

When she has been in the classroom, 2 times so far, she has been slightly disruptive, talking, butting in, raising her voice, standing and climbing on furniture. There is only 2 other students max in a classroom (3 including her). When she has done work, once, it was maths and she would answer with such sarcastic answer such as, not my problem, I don't know do your problems yourself and so and so. 

When she is not in the classroom or doing work, she is swearing, shouting, refusing to follow any instructions, not engaging with any staff, ripping display boards, screaming, you name it. 

She will ask to go for a walk and will then have a vape when she is away from school. She seems very low, angry, not interested or motivated. Recently she has asked to go home throughout the day but we have managed to make a plan to make the day easier so she stays. Today she didn't and went home early afternoon. 

She is refusing to communicate what is wrong, we've tried everything that usually works and we get no response. Nothing comforts her which used to and now she will not let anyone touch/comfort her through side hugs or rubs. 

If anyone has any ideas to help, that will be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. 

  • Hello ,

    I'm sorry to hear that you have been struggling with this student. Individuals on the spectrum can often display behaviour that may be challenging. There will generally be a reason for this and it is important to try and understand the trigger for the behaviour when developing strategies. You may like to have a look at the following link for more information on behaviour and strategies: 

    https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/behaviour 

    You may be interested in suggesting that this student's parents/carers seeki some professional support regarding the behaviour. You can search for professionals in your area we are aware of on the Autism Services Directory: 

    https://www.autism.org.uk/directory 

     You might also like to take a look at The Challenging Behaviour Foundation website for further information and advice: 

     https://www.challengingbehaviour.org.uk.  They also have an information and support service which you can contact by phone or email – details can be found here: https://www.challengingbehaviour.org.uk/for-family-carers/family-support-service/ 

    I hope this helps,

    ChloeMod

  • She is 17. We are an autism specialist school, accommodating the needs of 20 max pupils, either on a 1:1 or 2:1 staffing. 

    I feel like we got somewhere with her today and she engaged in conversation and her SALT lesson but that's about it. 

  • How old is she? Is she going through puberty? Does she attend mainstream school? 

    I had to find my own way, went through a period of being distruptive in class, played a lot of truant. I didnt know what was going on with me. Sometimes i had friends other times i didnt. I just felt different, terribly liw sense of esteem. Home life lacked support. I was about 14. I would have longed for support and understanding but i dont even think that would have helped because i didnt understand.

    Its so sad. It would be great if you could keep doing what your doing, in the hope that she comes out of it, but i inderstand its difficult not knowing when that might be. X

  • I'm not sure how her home life is right now. Usually she will tell us everything that has happened, good and bad, but recently when we've asked her she will reply with one of these, 'Fine, don't know, can't remember'. 

    The worrying part is that she is no longer wanting any staff, including her favourites. Usually all she wants is favourites but now she is just shouting and swearing at them. This past week she has said to them, 'Just eff off, you've peed me off' (with the swear words). When we've asked what staff have done, she has replied with, just have. 

    It is certainly a confusing time for everyone but all we want is to see her happy but everything we've tried has not helped so far.

  • It sounds like she needs your help and support, which you are providing, but she is unable to accept it. What a confusing time this may be for her. She may have to learn the hard way and miss out on her opportunity. Difficult to understand how she is feeling. Time and experience are wonderful, but we miss out on so much in the meantime. 

    I wonder what her home life is like? 

    If it were me i would hope that your care which it sounds like it is, would continue and hope that i realise and start to feel better. Makes me sad this x