Student unable to physically move at times

We are struggling to understand one of our students. They are 16, diagnosed with autism, possible ADHD and PTSD but not seeking professional help. We have always struggled with this student in particular, all the others we can figure out and understand very quickly but in this case, it's been extremely difficult. They are verbal but uses PECS on a daily basis. 

We've never seen this before and are seeking help from professionals but we would like to see your opinions. At times, they will just flop or lie down on the floor and can't physically move any part of their body. Sometimes it is out of the blue, other times it happens in times of distress and overhwelm. For us it's serious because its happened when they've absconded from school and was found by staff lying on the floor. When they are in this state, they can't move, can't talk, can't communicate and is in a vulnerable position and can't protect themselves from danger. 

It can last from 10 minutes to hours at a time. Usually what happens is they'll lay on the floor and once they are down they can't move. After a while, they will be able to move fingers, then squeeze hands, then wiggle toes and very slowly get all their movement back but it takes ages for her to start talking or even open her mouth again. We aren't sure what is happening during all this, parents are aware and have reported a similar thing but it's difficult because it just looks like she just relaxing lying down. Parents said they aren't going to the doctors or seek help because they find them useless so it's just knowing what to do to help. 

Has anyone experienced this before, like I said it can be unpredictable or predictable at times and can happen when they're happy working. Thank you very much for reading, it means a lot. 

Parents
  • You need to make sure it's not one of those rarer forms of epilepsy that can cause a kind of temporary catatonic state.

    I totally understand the parents. Doctors are often pretty clueless, but I would persaude them to get that checked out.

    If that isn't the explanation, well you are describing a form of Autistic shut down and that could well be what you are seeing. Not on that scale or as frequently, but my mother reports a few instances which had similarities when I was a toddler. In doctors' surgeries, I would lock up and freeze completely, unable to talk or respond physically in any way.

    The cause was simple; abject terror. The fear and the sensory over load had reached intolerable proportions. But no one knew I was afraid or overwhelmed. It did not express in any other "normal" way. I was just thought to be shy or uncooperative.

    If she's verbal, at a quite, relaxed time see if she can describe what experiences before this happens to her.

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  • You need to make sure it's not one of those rarer forms of epilepsy that can cause a kind of temporary catatonic state.

    I totally understand the parents. Doctors are often pretty clueless, but I would persaude them to get that checked out.

    If that isn't the explanation, well you are describing a form of Autistic shut down and that could well be what you are seeing. Not on that scale or as frequently, but my mother reports a few instances which had similarities when I was a toddler. In doctors' surgeries, I would lock up and freeze completely, unable to talk or respond physically in any way.

    The cause was simple; abject terror. The fear and the sensory over load had reached intolerable proportions. But no one knew I was afraid or overwhelmed. It did not express in any other "normal" way. I was just thought to be shy or uncooperative.

    If she's verbal, at a quite, relaxed time see if she can describe what experiences before this happens to her.

Children
  • Dawn: I feel for you mostly because I still have serious problems regarding anxiety-attacks.  I 'freeze' renders me paralysed but people do not understand what l am enduring because it is internal.  I often have memory lapses and my heart beats so fast I feel dizzy like I am having a heart-attack due to chest pain.  My left side of my neck and shoulder going into my are freezes in pain.  Following and previous days I suffer migraine and can not keep food down.  These problems got worse from the bullying and harassment from certain people - the police have been so good to me.

    I hope you have manged to over-come that problem and are having a better time at this stage in your life.  It is such a shame that NTs choose not to understand and are quick to write us off.