Enzymes/ CEASE therapy anyone?

stardust66 said:

Placebo effect can only apply as a possibility when the taker of the remedy knows that they have taken a remedy to supposedly cure their ailment. With a baby or a toddler, who is too young to understand that they have been given a remedy to supposedly cure an ailment, this is not possible. With an older child, it is obviously a possibility, but not with babies or toddlers.

Ah, well, this is the thing! Placebo effects have been extensively studied, and whilst no-one really knows quite how, or why, they work, they do know some often quite startling and counter-intuitive things about it.

One of them is that you can know that you are taking a placebo and the placebo will still work!

Another is that you don't always need to actually take anything.

What this suggests is that you don't need to have the cognitive ability to understand that you are being 'treated' or what that 'treatment' is for for it to have an effect.

Therefor, it is entirely possible for placebo to work even on very young children.

Things I have seen homeopathy work for: chronic knee pain (My Mother. The NHS had tried everything possible with no success, but homeopathy worked: She has never suffered with this again). Diverticulitis (My Grandmother. Again the NHS had told her there was no cure). Gout (a close fried of my parents). Heavy mentruation bleeding (My aunt), Serious skin irritation (my aunt. again the NHS had been unable to help). I was VERY sceptical about all of this, prior to the age of 30, and believed that they had all been "conned" in some way. I then suffered with severe back pain in my early 30s which the NHS could not seem to cure. I was treated homeopathically, and I did not believe that it would work. It did. I was better within a week, and it has never returned. I have also had treatment for wrist pain (Tinasinuvitis) which was successful. Myself and several family members and close friends have been treated successfully for bereavement. I was succesfully treated for severe pregnancy sickness during my second pregnancy. I had been hospitalised during my pregnancy with my son from severe sickness, and given lots of medication, which did not help, and I now suspect may be a cause of his autism. With my second pregnancy I used homeopathy successfully for this condition and prevented further hospitalisation.

For children: I have seen it be successful for puss pouring out of ears, chronic blocked sinuses, separation anxiety, bronchitis, dry skin. (All of these either my own children or my close friend's children)

All of these conditions, as far as I can tell, from what you've said, could be caused by things that would, or may themselves, clear up, or pass, naturally all by themselves without any external intervention.

Whether it can help autistic behaviours I do not know, but I am willing to find out, and would like to hear from anyone who has tried this approach.

Whatever happens you will never actually know for sure.

As I stated previously autistic traits can come and go as a child develops. They may also come and go as the environment in which the child exists changes.

If you use a homeopathic treatment and his autistic traits improve, then you can not say for sure that it was the treatment that caused the change.

It could have been countless other things.

This is why controlled scientific studies are done the way they are done, and such studies have been done into homeopathic remedies, in general (I'm not aware of any that have looked at Autism specifically), and they have found that not only are they no more effective than placebo, they're actually no more effective than doing nothing at all.

If you want to ignore scientific knowledge then go ahead, you're not the first, and you won't be the last, but do so knowing that you are wasting both your time and your money.

stardust66 said:

Placebo effect can only apply as a possibility when the taker of the remedy knows that they have taken a remedy to supposedly cure their ailment. With a baby or a toddler, who is too young to understand that they have been given a remedy to supposedly cure an ailment, this is not possible. With an older child, it is obviously a possibility, but not with babies or toddlers.

Ah, well, this is the thing! Placebo effects have been extensively studied, and whilst no-one really knows quite how, or why, they work, they do know some often quite startling and counter-intuitive things about it.

One of them is that you can know that you are taking a placebo and the placebo will still work!

Another is that you don't always need to actually take anything.

What this suggests is that you don't need to have the cognitive ability to understand that you are being 'treated' or what that 'treatment' is for for it to have an effect.

Therefor, it is entirely possible for placebo to work even on very young children.

Things I have seen homeopathy work for: chronic knee pain (My Mother. The NHS had tried everything possible with no success, but homeopathy worked: She has never suffered with this again). Diverticulitis (My Grandmother. Again the NHS had told her there was no cure). Gout (a close fried of my parents). Heavy mentruation bleeding (My aunt), Serious skin irritation (my aunt. again the NHS had been unable to help). I was VERY sceptical about all of this, prior to the age of 30, and believed that they had all been "conned" in some way. I then suffered with severe back pain in my early 30s which the NHS could not seem to cure. I was treated homeopathically, and I did not believe that it would work. It did. I was better within a week, and it has never returned. I have also had treatment for wrist pain (Tinasinuvitis) which was successful. Myself and several family members and close friends have been treated successfully for bereavement. I was succesfully treated for severe pregnancy sickness during my second pregnancy. I had been hospitalised during my pregnancy with my son from severe sickness, and given lots of medication, which did not help, and I now suspect may be a cause of his autism. With my second pregnancy I used homeopathy successfully for this condition and prevented further hospitalisation.

For children: I have seen it be successful for puss pouring out of ears, chronic blocked sinuses, separation anxiety, bronchitis, dry skin. (All of these either my own children or my close friend's children)

All of these conditions, as far as I can tell, from what you've said, could be caused by things that would, or may themselves, clear up, or pass, naturally all by themselves without any external intervention.

Whether it can help autistic behaviours I do not know, but I am willing to find out, and would like to hear from anyone who has tried this approach.

Whatever happens you will never actually know for sure.

As I stated previously autistic traits can come and go as a child develops. They may also come and go as the environment in which the child exists changes.

If you use a homeopathic treatment and his autistic traits improve, then you can not say for sure that it was the treatment that caused the change.

It could have been countless other things.

This is why controlled scientific studies are done the way they are done, and such studies have been done into homeopathic remedies, in general (I'm not aware of any that have looked at Autism specifically), and they have found that not only are they no more effective than placebo, they're actually no more effective than doing nothing at all.

If you want to ignore scientific knowledge then go ahead, you're not the first, and you won't be the last, but do so knowing that you are wasting both your time and your money.