Can u reverse a diagnosis

Son is 16, he was diagnosed when he was 9 YO he is very high functioning. He thinks that the diagnosis is wrong or maybe what he needed help with like fine motor skills and social cues are now “well mastered “ He wants to challenge his diagnosis and he thinks that whatever is written is not representative of him anymore. Can we do that? He was diagnosed at Springfield Hospital Tooting, how can we get them to see him please? Any help much appreciated. It doesn’t help also that the field he wants don’t take autistic children.

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  • Has your son tried Army Cadets?  I believe they accept young people up to 18 and have a more open recruitment policy than the actual services. Maybe phone your local cadet training centre for advice? Ask if a young autistic gets a good record in the ACF, could this be taken into consideration should they apply to join as an adult?  I am just guessing, but it is worth a phone call ...  If nothing else he will gain skills that will be useful in a civilian job, maybe do the Duke of Edinburgh's Award and NVQ in public service.

  • He is already in the cadets, he loves it. He is always punctual and very keen to contribute and take part in any event they do.. he is going to the annual camp in the 24th for 2 weeks and he already made his bag! He check it nearly every day and rearrange it every time. I will ask thank you for the advice 

  • Maybe his CO can check if the ban is absolute or if there is any "wriggle room" - I hope so. He sounds like a good kid! 

    I had a colleague who was autistic and volunteered as a paramedic with St John Ambulance. He said that in major incidents his autism helped him to screen out the chaos and focus on his patient and the assessment checklist. I guess the same might apply in the military.  He was also the armourer for a local re-enactment group and a licenced pyrotechnics technician, which required similar attention to detail.

  • Try through the HR office. 

    Thanks, Deepthought, Amiral Hine; that's the chap I'm thinking of.

    Well, if they not only didn't kick out Admiral Hine, but promoted him to Second Sea Lord, there has to be a way round this. And yes, I'd write to the MP and the Defence Minister.

  • The army recruitment is the same for any Navy, Air Force or military.. I know the guy you talking about his name is Nick hine. I would love to contact him directly but I can’t find anything . I want to write to him . 

  • I phoned the national recruitment centre and they told me the guidelines say no autistic so no autistic can get in unless their diagnosis is inaccurate or incorrect

    You see that's where the preduice kicks in. He's autistic, yeah and. ??? That brings gifts too, some of which might be actively useful to the army. Has he considered the Navy? There's a chap there, big cheese guy on the Spectrum in charge of personnel, coming out loud and proud and advocating for other neurodivergent people...worth a thought.


  • I’m looking if there’s any influential people with seniority that are advocating for autistic people and who can help me with my case :( 

    There is a certain Second Sea Lord Vice Admiral Hine who started promoting the 'neurodiversity network' initiative back in March 2021 according to The Times as being paywalled, and the The Mail as not being, so perhaps consider those articles or one of them as starting points.

    Basically though, Admiral Hine is of the opinion that "That autism made him a better naval officer" and that "It doesn’t mean that I am disabled, it doesn’t mean that I am odd, it doesn’t mean that I am in any way shape or form less capable. It means that I am different." And as such, "The only way we are going to win and compete [militarily] is by thinking differently, and therefore having people who think differently has got to be part of the solution."

    The only way that I know of that has occurred in terms of being diagnosed and getting into the military is going for 'a no longer of clinical significance' decision, which I am pretty sure (but may be mistaken) has been addressed by the Australian Professor Tony Attwood in one of his books, possibly The Complete Guide To Asperger Syndrome, so maybe read that, and or email him via his website and he or one of his fellows or understudies could inform or direct you accordingly, perhaps?

    Another option might be contacting Simon Baron-Cohen who is a Psychological and Psychiatry Professor of Autism at the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom, with him being the director of the Autism Research Centre there ~ and if is not available to respond; one of his fellows or understudies could better inform or direct you, potentially.


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  • I’m looking if there’s any influential people with seniority that are advocating for autistic people and who can help me with my case :( 

    There is a certain Second Sea Lord Vice Admiral Hine who started promoting the 'neurodiversity network' initiative back in March 2021 according to The Times as being paywalled, and the The Mail as not being, so perhaps consider those articles or one of them as starting points.

    Basically though, Admiral Hine is of the opinion that "That autism made him a better naval officer" and that "It doesn’t mean that I am disabled, it doesn’t mean that I am odd, it doesn’t mean that I am in any way shape or form less capable. It means that I am different." And as such, "The only way we are going to win and compete [militarily] is by thinking differently, and therefore having people who think differently has got to be part of the solution."

    The only way that I know of that has occurred in terms of being diagnosed and getting into the military is going for 'a no longer of clinical significance' decision, which I am pretty sure (but may be mistaken) has been addressed by the Australian Professor Tony Attwood in one of his books, possibly The Complete Guide To Asperger Syndrome, so maybe read that, and or email him via his website and he or one of his fellows or understudies could inform or direct you accordingly, perhaps?

    Another option might be contacting Simon Baron-Cohen who is a Psychological and Psychiatry Professor of Autism at the University of Cambridge in the United Kingdom, with him being the director of the Autism Research Centre there ~ and if is not available to respond; one of his fellows or understudies could better inform or direct you, potentially.


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