Is he going to be thrown out of this school as well?

Hi.  My 7 year old boy has just received his ASD diagnosis but he has been having great problems staying out of trouble at school for 18 months.  He was forced to change mainstream schools at Christmas after a series of fixed term exclusions for attacking both staff and children there (mostly staff)led to them refusing to have him back.  I get the impression that his outbursts were probably caused by his attempts at demand avoidance being thwarted or by his acute sense of unfairness.  Often his major outbursts would occur the day after a more minor one.  No amount of consequences, talking to, or incentives for good behaviour worked, probably because he just doesn’t have the coping skills in the moment where he needs them and cannot feel himself starting to lose it until he has already lost it.

Anyway he was doing really well at his new mainstream school until a couple of weeks ago.  He only goes there two days a week and spends the other three days at a pupil referral centre who understand him very well and he has no problems at the centre.  His new mainstream school is putting all the resources that they have his way in the two days he is there.  He has one to one support all day every day.  He needs this as he is really stressed out by even the idea of having to attempt work and so needs alternative activities when the work is too much.  He needs constant adult direction as he has difficulty directing his own play and gets giddy if undirected.  He needs micromanagement at break-times to avoid him getting giddy and disrupting other children’s play with his socially inappropriate demands to be in charge.

Now despite having all this support at his new school he has hurt people on four of the last five days he has been there.  I don’t know what more the school can do to prevent this but clearly he is going to be excluded again unless this hurting can be stopped.  I don’t know what to do. He doesn’t have any problems like this at the pupil referral unit but they can only take children part time. We are waiting for the result of a request for a statement but there are no special schools for KS1 in our area so he is going to have to be managed in mainstream at least until September.

  • I do not know if he would be happier in a special school as he might have problems with the other chilldren.

    I did when I went to the Maudsley over forty years ago in 1966 aged nine for three weeks.

    I had my teeth loosened by a silly game so I went to main stream school after that.

    I did go to a special School one afternoon a week without any other children.

    The reason was as the Psychiatrist at the Maudsley ordered there should be no other children when I go there.

    All the other children went there in groups.

    I imagine in a special school the school work would be easier but he might find the other children difficult and he might even find the work too easy.

    May be the answer is that he should be educated by himself at home.

    I do not really know as I left school in 1973 nearly forty years ago and I got my O Levels and A Levels at College.

    I leaned more when I did not have to fight the other children.

    David

  • Hi Silver Bells, sorry you and your son are having such a stressful time. Would you consider moving him to special school? PRUs are really just a temporary solution and he would probably get much less stress and much more understanding in a special school.

  • Hi silver bells

    Sounds like you're all going through a stressful time.
    I wonder if anyone from the PRU would be willing to pass on any advice to the school? Here's a link to a booklet which could be helpful - you can download it for free:
    http://www.autism.org.uk/en-gb/products/core-nas-publications/classroom-and-playground.aspx
    There are a number of strategies mentioned in there which might help.
    Failing that you mught want to contact the NAS Education Rights Service who will able to advise about appropriate educational provision. Here's the link:
    www.autism.org.uk/educationrights
    Also your local branch of Parent Partnership can be supportive in your dealings with school if you feel you need that, and may be able to advise you about locally available provision. You should be able to identify your local one through the Autism Services Directory:
    http://www.autism.org.uk/directory/browse/cid=82~aid=1.aspx

    I hope you'll find something there which will be useful to you. Hopefully some of our users will be able to share some of their experiences too.
    Wishing you luck,

    Sandra