14 year old son about to be diagnosed

This is all new to me. My son is the oldest of 4 children. I'm a single mum. Over the past year he has struggled with thoughts of worthlessness, self-harm, suicide. Living in a bit of a rough neighbourhood in Manchester hasn't helped. He's had issues with cocky and disrespectful teens approaching him and looking for a fight. Then at school as well he's had a couple of incidents of bullying. Before the lockdown he had a speech and language assessment which put him on the spectrum. He really struggled with school previously and I was hoping that not being in school would help but he's been very moody, sad and would not even go out or have some exercise inside. When I try to talk to him about how he's feeling he would tell me to go away and leave him alone. When I ask him about things he enjoys or likes doing he would just say "don't know". He would do some school work at home and I praise him but none of it seems to stick. What have other parents found useful? For anyone whose child struggles with social interactions with peers or even adults, what has helped? I encouraged him to write down how he's feeling. He shared it with me and tbh, most of it didn't make much sense. He's very confused but pushing away all help from school and even Camhs. He seems to have a good conversation with professionals but later would comment that noone is helping, nobody gets him. Does anyone have experience with such behaviour?

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  • Hi

    He's at the right age where our in-built over-blown need to follow the rules and seeing everyone else flouting the rules and getting away with it.    This will be mixed with raging hormones messing with his emotions.        Additionally, all the other children will be experimenting with relationships and manipulating each other and he will probably stand out as not 'getting it' so he will look gauche in front of everyone else - and he will realise that so it will destroy his self-confidence.

    As you know, kids are horrible to anyone who gets labelled as different or strange.

    You will probably find him to be distant and moody when he gets home because he will be annoyed with himself because of his social failings.    It will take time for him to decompress from the stress of dealing with such a chaotic environment.      Until he can process it all, you are likely to get either the dismissive 'nothing' answer or a sudden release of the stress as shouting at you or maybe violent behaviour.

    If he's bright, he will be judging the professionals he meets and will have found them tedious and lacking within a few seconds.       Our compulsion to 'do the right thing' means he's likely to continue to see them but he will have disconnected.   Just going through the motions to please everyone - except himself

    Something you might be able to help him with is to give him the 'inside track' and explain how people work - what certain behaviours mean and what to watch for for his own safety.   Sort of like a Jiminy Cricket character filling in all the social stuff and details that he is not spotting. 

    I suspect he would rather go out with you so it is 'safe' and he'll be less likely to have to avoid random bullying outside.

    When I was his age, I realised that a quiet, introverted personality would become an easy target so I developed a big, loud extrovert personality which it seems more acceptable to be 'different'.      I got together with a couple of others and started a rock group (talent not really necessary) - that seemed to get some mild admiration & respect.

    'Feelings' are a bit of a mystery to me - while everything is 'normal', I just feel 'meh'.     I don't really understand 'happy' but angry is easy.     There are too many variables to assess to come to the conclusion of 'happy'.      There are always negatives to detract from that possibility.

    What hobbies does he have?   Does he have any friends?      Does he *want* any friends?  

    Does he do scouts or cadets?     It's a very structured and controlled environment that is adult-driven so there's no bullying allowed and the kids that go along tend to be 'nicer' kids so he might find it less chaotic/stressful and could even find friends there.

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  • Hi

    He's at the right age where our in-built over-blown need to follow the rules and seeing everyone else flouting the rules and getting away with it.    This will be mixed with raging hormones messing with his emotions.        Additionally, all the other children will be experimenting with relationships and manipulating each other and he will probably stand out as not 'getting it' so he will look gauche in front of everyone else - and he will realise that so it will destroy his self-confidence.

    As you know, kids are horrible to anyone who gets labelled as different or strange.

    You will probably find him to be distant and moody when he gets home because he will be annoyed with himself because of his social failings.    It will take time for him to decompress from the stress of dealing with such a chaotic environment.      Until he can process it all, you are likely to get either the dismissive 'nothing' answer or a sudden release of the stress as shouting at you or maybe violent behaviour.

    If he's bright, he will be judging the professionals he meets and will have found them tedious and lacking within a few seconds.       Our compulsion to 'do the right thing' means he's likely to continue to see them but he will have disconnected.   Just going through the motions to please everyone - except himself

    Something you might be able to help him with is to give him the 'inside track' and explain how people work - what certain behaviours mean and what to watch for for his own safety.   Sort of like a Jiminy Cricket character filling in all the social stuff and details that he is not spotting. 

    I suspect he would rather go out with you so it is 'safe' and he'll be less likely to have to avoid random bullying outside.

    When I was his age, I realised that a quiet, introverted personality would become an easy target so I developed a big, loud extrovert personality which it seems more acceptable to be 'different'.      I got together with a couple of others and started a rock group (talent not really necessary) - that seemed to get some mild admiration & respect.

    'Feelings' are a bit of a mystery to me - while everything is 'normal', I just feel 'meh'.     I don't really understand 'happy' but angry is easy.     There are too many variables to assess to come to the conclusion of 'happy'.      There are always negatives to detract from that possibility.

    What hobbies does he have?   Does he have any friends?      Does he *want* any friends?  

    Does he do scouts or cadets?     It's a very structured and controlled environment that is adult-driven so there's no bullying allowed and the kids that go along tend to be 'nicer' kids so he might find it less chaotic/stressful and could even find friends there.

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