Soul-destroying

My son had difficulties that were blindingly obvious from a very early age and first flagged up at pre-school. He ticks every box apart from the “eye contact” and “ability to empathise” areas and this, along with our god-awful mistake of raising him to be polite, friendly, well mannered and behaved, has stood in the way of him getting a break his entire life.

One of my closest friends is a clinical psychologist and suspected AS when he was still very young. She couldn’t assess / diagnosis him formally but did carry out “off the record” assessments to see what the results were. She advised me to push for assessments with Educational Psychology and Clinical Psychology etc which were first completed in 2007 but never followed up because “He’s a nice boy really and I think we just need to help him to find coping strategies”

It wasn’t until I personally requested a referral to CAMHS that any further referrals were made. I asked for their input because his mental health bombed and he started pulling out his eyelashes, eyebrows and hair having become totally isolated and without any friends whatsoever.

To make matters worse he was due to transfer to secondary in 2011. His teacher supported my request to have him attend a smaller secondary where he would be less overwhelmed and more supported and helped me prepare for a panel hearing.

To try and speed things up and get the help he needed, the head teacher referred to the Consultant Paediatrician. CAMHS said they thought he might need counselling / confidence building sessions but would need to await the outcome of the Consultant Paed’s assessments.

The OT’s went ballistic when they learned he was first assessed by EP four years earlier but never followed up because there was nothing they could do other than offer advice and suggestions. He scored just below the 2nd percentile on his physical assessments, indicating significant difficulties that unfortunately, can’t now be put right.

The paediatrician was too taken with how polite and friendly my son was to listen to anything I said and couldn’t understand my concerns about the allocated school having over 1600 pupils with routines and schedules that would leave him spinning. Without a formal diagnosis to add weight to his cause and having been subjected to the most farcical hearing imaginable with utterly clueless panel members (“Why doesn’t he take medication? Can’t be that bad if he can manage without”), the appeal was not allowed and my son has been home-schooled ever since.

My options were either risk his mental health and emotional wellbeing by letting him attend a school I know full well would crucify him from the outset - or risk his general development and potentially leave him dependent on care support as an adult. Nice set of options.

He has been unfairly cheated out of any / all support he deserves because he’s a “nice” boy who likes giving people hugs and quite literally wouldn’t harm a fly. He’s missed out on a whole year’s education and emotional development by the tribunal hearing panel and I remain bitterly resentful that he has been denied so many opportunities.

I’ve applied for another appeal hearing for September this year although I’m already bracing myself for the letter that says they’re going to do nothing for him.

It’s soul-destroying beyond belief and I’ve no fight left in me. All I want is for him to go to school and be happy.

God, I’m fed up. Cry

  • Dear Parly, 

    What an awful situation you are in, and what a courageous mother your are.  I am not experienced as the many other helpful repliers are, as our diagnosis is new, but I have some advice to offer from within the world of medicine.

    Just as within any field, there are good doctors, great doctors and awful doctors.  Some will have little experience of ASD, and, as others have mentioned, you have encountered a Paediatrician within this realm.  There are paediatricians who specialise in ASD - are you able to get a second opinion?  THe way to do it is to research paediatricians who specialise in ASD (preferably ones that work for the NHS, not ones that run their own private companies to assess for ASD as they may have conflicted interests), if you find one book a double appointment with your GP (if the receptionist questions need for this say you have a severe problem that requires this time, or simply book two follow-on appointments - one in your son's name and one in yours), tell the GP about how awful, and as you say soul-destroying, your son's mismanagement has been.  Explain you have a "complete loss of faith in the local Paediatric services with a breakdown of trust in the doctor-patient relationship", ask them for a referral to the new Paeds service.  THey can give you this.  If there is any dispute a case simply has to be made to the PCT for need.  I don't know where you live or what you may have already tried, so I'm sorry if this is useless to you, but thought I'd let you know just in case.  The right assessment can make a huge difference, and can lead to recommendations regarding education (not to mention OT, ed psych, SALT, Portage etc) that the LEA can't ignore.

    On another note, your committment and love shine through your post.  You are clearly a woman (or man) made of strong and fantastic stuff.  You are your son's advocate in every way and that is the most wonderful gift you can give him.  I sincerely hope that everybody else doesn't let him or you down.

    Good luck and God bless. 

  • I really feel for you, it disgusts me that these people mess about with peoples lives so easily , they are overworked ok iIunderstand that, but do they forget its their JOB, whether they are overworked or not

    if a pedeatrition doesn't have any understanding of autism or asd then she's not the right person to help, and you need to ask if she has any experience (going by her attitude and comments, she's not)

    you need your friend to step in for you somewhere and refer you to a person who is

    you are all being unfairly treated and you made NO mistake in how you raised him, it is the supposed health support that are making mistakes left right and centre due to ignorance and steryotypes

    dont beat yourself up at all, you are doing briliantly and i dont know how you have been coping with all these people who are making it worse

    for your appeal, gather all you can, i said to someone a few mins ago to record their childs behaviour, do that,

    just because he 'seems polite' doesnt mean he hasnt got autism/asd or any related issues when hes at home or in other situations, show them the truth not just the things you helped him with but also the things he still needs help with,

    and is there any way your friend can back you up, write a formal official letter for you, get a referal to someone she knows directly who will help , anything like that at all

    also, an mp on your side one who advocates for disabled rights etc might help

    you and your son deserve to have a proper assessment by a fully traint proffessional in asd not a pedeatrition or mental health team who deal with other areas 

    if the hearing was farcical, say that, if they didnt have a clue about asd, say that, say exactly what you think needs to be said, dont hold back on it, be honest (obviously tactfuly no f or b swearwords hahah)

    you have plenty fight left in you, do you know why, because you deserve better, have all of us on your side, have the truth on your side and you know you can

  • How frustrating to realise that there are so many of us on this situation!  To be at the high functioning end of the ASD (I also have daughter, so of course there are the other masking difficulties of the condition associated with her sex!) is probablythe most difficult position to be in in regards to accessing diagnosis and support.

    My greatest relief is that mdaughter is loved and supported in her family and able to tell me much of the time when she is upset or frustrated so we are able to work on coping mechanisms together.  As loving parent you are giving your son the most important support he will ever need...but I completely share your frustration, disgust and stress at how difficult it is to get access to LEA andeducational support needed....Disabilitydiscrimination has a long way to go as it seems endemic in the system!

  • Hi Parly

    I have a 12 yr old son - recently diagnosed with ASD. We ended up on the diagnosis route after my son started secondary school and then refused to go back after the first half-term. We tried a second school, but he hasn't been now since Feb half term. These schools were both smallish independent schools. We're now applying for a statement, although have been refused an assessment and we are going to have to appeal. So, although my story is different to yours, I can certainly understand how soul-destroying it all is for you. All we want for our children is to have an education and a happy life, and yet we have to fight every step of the way, and it is hard for us as parents to keep on going.

    It sounds like we were lucky to at least get the diagnosis. What is happening for you on the diagnosis front? Has somebody done an ADOS assessment with him? 

    When you say your son has eye contact - do you think he uses eye contact in the same way as other children his age? My son has eye contact, but I don't think it is the same as other children. You mentioned empathy too, until recently I'd always thought that my son had empathy. Maybe I just hadn't realised that it was possible for people not to have empathy - but now I can see that he doesn't, and it probably explains why I never used to get anywhere with him when I was trying to get him to empathise with me! Do you think that maybe because your son is nice, kind, polite that this is being confused as him having empathy. Even if he does have empathy, this shouldn't rule out a diagnosis if everything else is glaringly obvious.

    So, is your appeal hearing in September to get him into the school you want? Maybe getting your local county councillor and MP on side would be a good idea, I think this is the sort of case where they would be supportive and may be able to help. I'm assuming this is a mainstream school and that your son doesn't have a statement.

    How is your son getting on with the home schooling? My son just refuses to do anything school-like at home, so I haven't been able to educate him at all since he has been away from school.

    Sharon

  • IPSEA are great they helped with my son's tribunal they will appoint a representative too.  Also CORAM were invaluable 

    Good luck I have walked in your shoes 

    x

  • Hello Parly,

    I'm so sorry to hear about this and hope very much that you can get the outcome that you want. Have you tried contacting the Education Rights Service?

    http://www.autism.org.uk/our-services/advice-and-information-services/education-rights-service/advocacy-for-education-service-in-england-and-wales.aspx

    They should be able to help out with some advice.

    Good luck to you.

    Sandra - mod

  • Hi, Parly (hope I got that right)

    Sounds like you have everything to be upset about, and I am really sorry about that.  I wish there was something I could do.

    I don't suppose there is any mileage in contacting your MP?

    Warmest best wishes to you

    Patiens