ASD in people from foreign backgrounds

Russia - and other former Soviet satellite states - appears to be behind the curve when it comes to ASD unless anybody knows otherwise but a high proportion of published material about ASD after 1990 is written by Americans using American subjects. I am wondering whether there is distortion and tainting by American culture and American social values that do not apply in other countries.

The US is an insular country with its own peculiar way of doing things where a high proportion of its people lack a knowledge and understanding of the rest of the world and the way its people do things.

The same could apply to most places. We're not all that far removed from the time of padded cells and lobotomies...

Could the same also apply to the other superpower nation at the time? It's track record in mental health during the cold war years doesn't exactly make very pleasant reading. It also failed to co-discover AS during this era.

I doubt that the USSR was the best place for mental health research, unless you wanted to study how sticking sane dissidents into mental health facilities and dosing them with drugs drives them actually crazy...

It's interesting to note that there was no knowledge of AS and other high-functioning ASD in the Soviet Union and its satellite states during the era of communism.

What is known about ASD in these countries today is very unclear in Britain but are there any significant publications in Russian and other eastern European or central Asian languages?

I wonder how many 'otakus' in Japan are on the spectrum.

Also, Hans Asperger was himself Austrian.

Has the NAS got any statistics for the number of Muslims of south Asian origin (exclude Muslims of other genetic origins) and Hindus of south Asian origin (almost all are) with Asperger syndrome or high-functioning autism who live in Britain?

If such figures exist then it may help to shine some light on whether these conditions are caused by nature or nurture due to the differences in the cultural upbringing of children.

The Islamic system of education is not to start formal schooling until the age of 7. In practice a high proportion of Muslim children under the age of 7 attend school but parents are rarely inclined to push them academically at a young age. A higher than average (and quite large) proportion of Muslim children leave school with poor GCSEs, even failing to achieve 5 C grades minimum, unless their parents are professionals from the A and B socioeconomic groups. Muslim children also spend much more time studying religious matters out of school hours than almost all children who follow other religions.

Hindu parents value education and are keen to push their children academically from a young age. They also encourage the study of harder subjects like mathematics and science and discourage soft subjects when choosing GCSE options. As a result Hindu children leave school with higher than average GCSE grades (believed to be second only to Chinese children and higher than white indigenous British) even if they are from less well off backgrounds. Hindu children rarely spend much time studying religious matters outside of school. About the same amount of time as an average Christian does.

HI All, and Ferret

Each Child of Humanity is more generally resprented as a Black-Point, and each Child of Divinity is more generally represented as being a single Black-Point within a White-Circle.

So spot-on with the Circle being as you thought, the Square though is part of a different system of organisational structures or archetectural shapes - as with edges in higher to lower frequency order as follows:

0/8, The Geomatrix (all 8 structures below combined as a macro)

1/7. Heptagon (9 edges due to expansive clevage) 

2/6. Hexagon

3/5. Pentagram

4/4. Square (with two corners on the vertical and two on the horizontal)

5/3, Triangle

6/2. Circle 

7/1. Line (vertical)

8/0. Point (all eight structures above combined as a micro)

>> I'll explain this when I have the time - but the analysis of the Japanese culture getting eroded is very much as you say; only rather than square I would say Linear as opposing Circular. <<   

Agreed with your first post on this topic, and the second too - yay all the indians on the american-canadian parrelle, although I found the east american-canadian cultures fascinating with the Nordic influences, and Russion and on and on through each parallel. Easter Island though is the one cuture whos teachings and methodoligies cause me to relax and just enjoy - without feeling driven or compelled to give loads of information about them. Oh - if you did not know how the Statues of Easter Island or the obelisks at stone henge and other stones circles were moved into place - Google:

Scientists Make Easter Island Statue Walk

Anyway, basically, any culture that made innovative use of sacred geometry for civilised purposes internally in the environment of the body, and by reciprocation on through the outer environment  - whether it was in the massive architectural stone-block sense, or very simply in tne minimalist sense - they all past and present fascinate me. I spent so much time talking to people from those cultures, or else those who had visited or lived with them. 

I suppose the simplest way to summarise the collective message . . . is that according to the most civilised cultures of old, the neuro-typical percentile were the children of Humanity - as having the most generalised or broad range of abilities, and the neuro-divergent percentile were the 'suns' or children of Divinty - as having the most specialised or narrow range of abilities.

NAS22056 said:

Having lived and worked in Japan, I can say the education system there is very aware of ASD's - and that is in a lifestyle which imho is very ASD friendly; so certainly my problems were not so apparent in that setting.

I am very interested in seeing Japanese resources about ASD.

It has crossed my mind that some societies are more ASD friendly than others. It wouldn't surprise me if the US is one of the worst amongst major countries.

What Western Science (quantum physics) describes as being "Dark Matter" ~ Eastern Religion (metaphysics) describes as being "Aether" ~ as means Matter of Light or Dark Matter. So same 'object' different naming or nomenclature.

As it is then, what we amongst all the English speaking Western cultures describe as being Autism, Asperger's Syndrome, Kanner's Syndrome or ASD - Buddism, Judaims, Toaism and just as every single religious culture has done since prehistory; there really should be no shock at all nor any surprise what-so-ever that they have different nomenclatures for Autism too.

Now as an Aspergian type, I was one of those that was born with a university level reading competance, and becuase:

A) I really could not get on with most Neuro-Typicals [or NT's] due to thier victimisations;

B) Most NT's could not get on with me as I never take sides;

C) I could not understand why the larger majority of NT's kept on pretendeding to be themselves,

    and why the lesser majority of Neuro-Typicals kept on pretending to be other people;

    and,

D) No matter how many times I tried to explain my observations; many NT's said I was imagining

    things, or lying, and when it turned out I had reported the facts of 'unbelievable' matters - most

    would ignore or deny it, some would become unsettled or frightened and then avoid me ~

    whenever possible, some would persecute me, and the smallest proportion were fascinated by

    me, and few even wanted to know more.

I went to the library with my 'mummy' as I called her back then, when I was about 6, and started on Egyptian theosophies and philosophies (Thoth, Hermes Trismegistus etc) and the Greeks (Plato, Socrates etc) and on and on in order to find out why everybody seemed so utterly unsane or insane, or whether it was wholly and truely me who was instead a-hell-of-lot madder than even I thought I wasn't. 

>> To tired to continue writing right now, as this has taken seven hours to write, and I'll continue when able to list a few descriptors for ASD in other cultures, but one book I found monmental from the pagan tradition before the Christian era - there were a number of different modernisations and vague variations with the titlle of which there are: - Book of Merlin - The Art of Living Backwards - <<