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  • HungryCaterpillar said:

    Thanks Deepthought. I never knew. But, I've just had a look on YouTube.

    How is it that Axanar looks like it had better production than Discovery?! Whilst the design of the 'Discovery' ship was... ahem... questionable... it was more the cheapness of the graphics that bothered me more.

    The 'Discovery' ship . . . was just so so so far out of character in the sense of going angular rather than involving the eliptical curvature of federation vessels, and I did not personally like it as ship design anyway. I mean it was not all bad, but it just did not balance out.

    The 'cheapness' of the graphics thing was but hopefully is not now rather "B-movie." Might of worked years ago as an A movie, and although B movies have great value - not so when it comes to a full on Star Trek venture.

    Many of the seriously devoted Star Trek fan base are calling for a boycote of Discovery - in terms of not watching it or buying merchandise from it.

    The thing is now the Axanar team are linking up with one of the most talented graphic modelling artists I have ever had the rapture of seeing so far - ALLVISION100. Their work is utterly captivating and beautiful - in my opinion. Take a look via:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?=cuXt2AAn1kw

    or else via Google:

    Chasing The Infinite Sky (20016 Star Trek fan film SHORT) - YouTube


    But, is the new ship / series set on-board the Enterprise, as opposed to the 'NX Discovery'? The ship designation didn't seem to be the Enterprise (am I going full geek there?).

    Given my previous comments above; going geek about this is generally an expected or accepted pass time when it comes to sci-fi - part of the territory, do as the natives do and all that. Unfortunately in one sense the Discovery has the place of the Enterprise in this series, and its just a case of seeing how it turns out really.

    And, what's with the obsession with pre-Kirk era?

    Lots of people like to know the histories that influenced and led to the development of the characters themselves and their species, cultures, technologies - scientific and spiritual - and all that. Some people prefer more to have the history along with the futuristic present and the far future, and others prefer as you do with the more futuristic emphasis being involved - which is all good either way as far I am concerned.

    What's wrong with the 24th century?

    Well that is because we are in the 21st century, and the 20st century stuff does look a bit dated now. The basic idea comercially is to reboot and revamp everything - from start until who knows when or in what way. 

    Doesn't anyone want to know Sisko's fate?

    If (or when) the reworking of Trek actually gets organised it might perhaps be a question of which actor gets to play Sisko, which actors get the supporting parts, who the writers will be, and everything else.

    What does the NCC-1701-F look like?

    That is the question. We have Enterprise E and J - so something inbetween obviously. I have only just found my way to the Star Treck computor modelllor fanbase in the last week. There is everything from Enterprise A to E at:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=W66nXoKEL5U

    or Google:

    To Boldly Go. . . Star Trek Starships of the Federation Remake - A Timm Humphreys Film - YouTube

    It maybe that its just a case of seeing if someone has done Enterprise F yet, or may be even looking for one you like. If I find out anything more I will let you know. If you are inclined to go for the search yourself - let me know if you find one possibly?

    How has Picard dealt with the fact that that jumped-up Janeway reappears from her jaunt in the delta quadrant only to be promoted above him to Admiral - despite everything's he's done?!

    Well being that Picard is as a character the epitiome of what a member of the Federation is supposed to be; I imagine they would get on admirably as equals - having full respect for one another on account of their experiences and heat of the moment innovations in terms of being and having been starship captains. Who knows?

    Did the transfer to B4 leave Data as a simpleton?

    I think the implication on that one was perhaps not - but it may take some time, in evolutional and or technological terms, or in whatever way that is yet to be known. Resurections and rebirths are after all a rather a common and pertinent arena of character development in human history anyway, I mean it featured a bit in the original Star Trek films, here and there in Generations, Deep Space 9, Voger and so many other sci-fi offerings, to name but a few.

    Gene Rodenberry was well into it especially after getting in touch with some actual spiritual entities in the seventies who referred to themselves as being the Council of 9 - as who heavily influenced Gene to share the revelations he had with them, and produce a means to introduce them - through the Star Trek Films, Generations and eventually Deep Space 9.

    If you wish to find out about what Roddenberry discussed with the Council of 9, the commentaries are in a book called the 'The Only Planet of Choice.' I read in the late eighties when Generations was aired on BBC2, so when Deep Space 9 was announced - respect due to Gene Roddenberry, I was elated, and more so with each following episode. So gutted when it got canned though.

    What are the long-term consequences for Janeway bringing technology from the future back to the federation?

    Enterprise J as featured in ENTERPRISE, and whatever that may or may not involve.

    What of the Dominion?

    Well with all series that are canned, things may well of gotten covered later - cliff-hanging what next future funding issue perhaps?

    Oh - P.S. When you stated that warp travel is impossible - it is not. The current problem at the moment is how to stablise and maintain a coherent enough diamagnetic-magnetic tube-torus warp field. The mathematics of warp fields are not yet fully understood - but the general process is.

    The current mathematic formulas for warp field technology - are equivalent to knowing only the vowel sounds of a spoken language, whereas assessing the equiivalent consonates of this language - is only just starting to happen. Smelling the coffee but not as yet drinking it - as the expression goes.

    The biggest problem for most scientists in this field of research is thjat they are still trying to work on how to get from here to somewhere else at a particualr speed, but what confuses them is that here is everywhere else and everywhere else is here. This is referred as the holographic principle, as has been proven and in so doing demonstrated that the Big-Bang is not relevant as theory - only as a speculative hypothesis.

    Educating the masses on this began a few years back with the University of Warwick publishing on the fact that E=MC2 is not a law (or not a fixed constant but a fludic variable according to thermodynamics) in that the speed of light depends upon the plasmic origin or power source (such as the sun) and the partical densities through which the light travels - quicker through air and slower through water and so on and so fourth. We know that faster than light travel happens and is happening in terms of experimental research in real terms - such as at CERN in Europe, and others institutions in America, Canada, Japan, China and Russia as far as I know of at least.

    Trying to achieve warp one, two, three and so on is only really usefull in terms of learning that it is not productively usefull to start with, whereas achieving warp ten - as in instantaneous transport; will allow us then to achieve progressive transport or warp speeds. So its been one of those putting the carriage infront of the horse states of affairs, along with not even realising that there hasn't even been a platic carrot on the end of the stick either . . .

    Big big oops - I think I may have achieved too high a geek factor with this post script?

    Apologies if so. 

    D.

       

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  • HungryCaterpillar said:

    Thanks Deepthought. I never knew. But, I've just had a look on YouTube.

    How is it that Axanar looks like it had better production than Discovery?! Whilst the design of the 'Discovery' ship was... ahem... questionable... it was more the cheapness of the graphics that bothered me more.

    The 'Discovery' ship . . . was just so so so far out of character in the sense of going angular rather than involving the eliptical curvature of federation vessels, and I did not personally like it as ship design anyway. I mean it was not all bad, but it just did not balance out.

    The 'cheapness' of the graphics thing was but hopefully is not now rather "B-movie." Might of worked years ago as an A movie, and although B movies have great value - not so when it comes to a full on Star Trek venture.

    Many of the seriously devoted Star Trek fan base are calling for a boycote of Discovery - in terms of not watching it or buying merchandise from it.

    The thing is now the Axanar team are linking up with one of the most talented graphic modelling artists I have ever had the rapture of seeing so far - ALLVISION100. Their work is utterly captivating and beautiful - in my opinion. Take a look via:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?=cuXt2AAn1kw

    or else via Google:

    Chasing The Infinite Sky (20016 Star Trek fan film SHORT) - YouTube


    But, is the new ship / series set on-board the Enterprise, as opposed to the 'NX Discovery'? The ship designation didn't seem to be the Enterprise (am I going full geek there?).

    Given my previous comments above; going geek about this is generally an expected or accepted pass time when it comes to sci-fi - part of the territory, do as the natives do and all that. Unfortunately in one sense the Discovery has the place of the Enterprise in this series, and its just a case of seeing how it turns out really.

    And, what's with the obsession with pre-Kirk era?

    Lots of people like to know the histories that influenced and led to the development of the characters themselves and their species, cultures, technologies - scientific and spiritual - and all that. Some people prefer more to have the history along with the futuristic present and the far future, and others prefer as you do with the more futuristic emphasis being involved - which is all good either way as far I am concerned.

    What's wrong with the 24th century?

    Well that is because we are in the 21st century, and the 20st century stuff does look a bit dated now. The basic idea comercially is to reboot and revamp everything - from start until who knows when or in what way. 

    Doesn't anyone want to know Sisko's fate?

    If (or when) the reworking of Trek actually gets organised it might perhaps be a question of which actor gets to play Sisko, which actors get the supporting parts, who the writers will be, and everything else.

    What does the NCC-1701-F look like?

    That is the question. We have Enterprise E and J - so something inbetween obviously. I have only just found my way to the Star Treck computor modelllor fanbase in the last week. There is everything from Enterprise A to E at:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=W66nXoKEL5U

    or Google:

    To Boldly Go. . . Star Trek Starships of the Federation Remake - A Timm Humphreys Film - YouTube

    It maybe that its just a case of seeing if someone has done Enterprise F yet, or may be even looking for one you like. If I find out anything more I will let you know. If you are inclined to go for the search yourself - let me know if you find one possibly?

    How has Picard dealt with the fact that that jumped-up Janeway reappears from her jaunt in the delta quadrant only to be promoted above him to Admiral - despite everything's he's done?!

    Well being that Picard is as a character the epitiome of what a member of the Federation is supposed to be; I imagine they would get on admirably as equals - having full respect for one another on account of their experiences and heat of the moment innovations in terms of being and having been starship captains. Who knows?

    Did the transfer to B4 leave Data as a simpleton?

    I think the implication on that one was perhaps not - but it may take some time, in evolutional and or technological terms, or in whatever way that is yet to be known. Resurections and rebirths are after all a rather a common and pertinent arena of character development in human history anyway, I mean it featured a bit in the original Star Trek films, here and there in Generations, Deep Space 9, Voger and so many other sci-fi offerings, to name but a few.

    Gene Rodenberry was well into it especially after getting in touch with some actual spiritual entities in the seventies who referred to themselves as being the Council of 9 - as who heavily influenced Gene to share the revelations he had with them, and produce a means to introduce them - through the Star Trek Films, Generations and eventually Deep Space 9.

    If you wish to find out about what Roddenberry discussed with the Council of 9, the commentaries are in a book called the 'The Only Planet of Choice.' I read in the late eighties when Generations was aired on BBC2, so when Deep Space 9 was announced - respect due to Gene Roddenberry, I was elated, and more so with each following episode. So gutted when it got canned though.

    What are the long-term consequences for Janeway bringing technology from the future back to the federation?

    Enterprise J as featured in ENTERPRISE, and whatever that may or may not involve.

    What of the Dominion?

    Well with all series that are canned, things may well of gotten covered later - cliff-hanging what next future funding issue perhaps?

    Oh - P.S. When you stated that warp travel is impossible - it is not. The current problem at the moment is how to stablise and maintain a coherent enough diamagnetic-magnetic tube-torus warp field. The mathematics of warp fields are not yet fully understood - but the general process is.

    The current mathematic formulas for warp field technology - are equivalent to knowing only the vowel sounds of a spoken language, whereas assessing the equiivalent consonates of this language - is only just starting to happen. Smelling the coffee but not as yet drinking it - as the expression goes.

    The biggest problem for most scientists in this field of research is thjat they are still trying to work on how to get from here to somewhere else at a particualr speed, but what confuses them is that here is everywhere else and everywhere else is here. This is referred as the holographic principle, as has been proven and in so doing demonstrated that the Big-Bang is not relevant as theory - only as a speculative hypothesis.

    Educating the masses on this began a few years back with the University of Warwick publishing on the fact that E=MC2 is not a law (or not a fixed constant but a fludic variable according to thermodynamics) in that the speed of light depends upon the plasmic origin or power source (such as the sun) and the partical densities through which the light travels - quicker through air and slower through water and so on and so fourth. We know that faster than light travel happens and is happening in terms of experimental research in real terms - such as at CERN in Europe, and others institutions in America, Canada, Japan, China and Russia as far as I know of at least.

    Trying to achieve warp one, two, three and so on is only really usefull in terms of learning that it is not productively usefull to start with, whereas achieving warp ten - as in instantaneous transport; will allow us then to achieve progressive transport or warp speeds. So its been one of those putting the carriage infront of the horse states of affairs, along with not even realising that there hasn't even been a platic carrot on the end of the stick either . . .

    Big big oops - I think I may have achieved too high a geek factor with this post script?

    Apologies if so. 

    D.

       

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