Please don't worry KatJackKev, debate is always useful on here. I'm sorry this thread got diverted over the reprimands arising on other threads.
I'm guilty of being very research-ethics minded about student surveys. Some very good points have been made in the debate, and I need to think about whether I charge in too quickly. It has been interesting to wait and see who else comments.
The debate also exercised my concern about the Mods not immediately stopping surveys. I feel personally it is not a good idea to disclose personal details, especially about children, on student surveys, because there isn't enough control over access to the raw data collected. So I feel, as clearly do others, that the longer the survey monkey link remains open, there is a risk people thinking the research is real front-line research, may be tempted to respond. But maybe I'm being too "bull in a china shop" about this.
I'm glad my advice was helpful. Trouble is I really worrry about giving advice - usually if there isn't any ready response from other parents, I try to offer something. Thing is these are my theories based on my experiences and experience of working with students on the spectrum and one or two other contexts.
The trouble is there is an acute lack of helpful information. I've already got into trouble for criticising the NAS site and the Mods referring people to it - maybe I've just got to learn to live with the fact NAS probably hasn't the resources to upgrade. But there must be productive research somewhere that provides helpful material. I do read around before replying but it only reminds me how little is out there.
The very obvious thing about this forum is so many people, almost every day, facing real crises, and finding no resolution from the system. It is good that the forum is able to provide this through peer support.
I just get very frustrated by the Mods referring people to the website, as if the peer support isn't adequate, or they disagree - as if they are saying don't waste your time listening to these idiots, the facts are on the website. So what is the point of the forum?
It might be valid intervention if there was stuff on the website, but there really isn't anything that helps so very many questions raised here. One obvious example is melt-downs versus "challenging behaviour" as far as the website goes. The NAS website has nothing I can find on meltdowns - yet it is one of the commonest postings. Maybe there is, but if so it needs to be findable.
However my current resolution is to try not to let this get to me, just try to live with the lack of information, and do my best, like everyone else here, to offer some support and consolation.
Please don't worry KatJackKev, debate is always useful on here. I'm sorry this thread got diverted over the reprimands arising on other threads.
I'm guilty of being very research-ethics minded about student surveys. Some very good points have been made in the debate, and I need to think about whether I charge in too quickly. It has been interesting to wait and see who else comments.
The debate also exercised my concern about the Mods not immediately stopping surveys. I feel personally it is not a good idea to disclose personal details, especially about children, on student surveys, because there isn't enough control over access to the raw data collected. So I feel, as clearly do others, that the longer the survey monkey link remains open, there is a risk people thinking the research is real front-line research, may be tempted to respond. But maybe I'm being too "bull in a china shop" about this.
I'm glad my advice was helpful. Trouble is I really worrry about giving advice - usually if there isn't any ready response from other parents, I try to offer something. Thing is these are my theories based on my experiences and experience of working with students on the spectrum and one or two other contexts.
The trouble is there is an acute lack of helpful information. I've already got into trouble for criticising the NAS site and the Mods referring people to it - maybe I've just got to learn to live with the fact NAS probably hasn't the resources to upgrade. But there must be productive research somewhere that provides helpful material. I do read around before replying but it only reminds me how little is out there.
The very obvious thing about this forum is so many people, almost every day, facing real crises, and finding no resolution from the system. It is good that the forum is able to provide this through peer support.
I just get very frustrated by the Mods referring people to the website, as if the peer support isn't adequate, or they disagree - as if they are saying don't waste your time listening to these idiots, the facts are on the website. So what is the point of the forum?
It might be valid intervention if there was stuff on the website, but there really isn't anything that helps so very many questions raised here. One obvious example is melt-downs versus "challenging behaviour" as far as the website goes. The NAS website has nothing I can find on meltdowns - yet it is one of the commonest postings. Maybe there is, but if so it needs to be findable.
However my current resolution is to try not to let this get to me, just try to live with the lack of information, and do my best, like everyone else here, to offer some support and consolation.
