Rant on POTUS 10/5/26 remark on Los Angeles and San Diego

CONTENT WARNING: American politics. Also, violent rhetoric.

Okay, so last night Donald Trump appeared at a rally in Nebraska and he made a rather disturbing comment regarding the high prices of gas and groceries during the US/Iran war. Please note: This was a very important topic for Trump to address ahead of midterm elections, since the high prices are legitimately the biggest failing the Republicans are facing due to Trump’s war and tariffs. If he ignores the costs rural Americans are suffering through, he risks losing single issue voters and swing voters, thus pushing the overall government more Democrat and less under his control. So here is what he said word-for-word:

”And again, remember, with the war, it’s just artificial. It’s a little bit high. It’s a small price to pay for keeping the world safe, keeping our country safe. They can take out a city. Let them take out Los Angeles. Let them take out San Diego This is a very small price to pay, and it’s going to be over with very soon. It’s essentially almost over with.”

I’ve got a lot of thoughts about this small quote.

1. Obviously, Trump’s administration can (and probably will) explain that the claims on the two cities were just a joke or even randomly picked cities as examples. I would argue the safety of over a million lives is not an appropriate subject for a world leader to joke about, which would normally necessitate an apology to the civilians of those cities. I’ll get into why these particular cities were unlikely randomly picked in point 3.

2. There was cheering that started when he said they could “take out a city,” but the cheering went wild when he mentioned Los Angeles and San Diego. Even if the audience interpreted it as an off-color joke - which I doubt - that seems a little extreme to cheer on the bombing of two highly populated cities. This is just a glimpse into the insane extremes his fanbase are pushing him towards.

3. Fun facts about Los Angeles and San Diego: For y’all in the UK, California is FAMOUSLY Democratic. Mentioning those two cities in particular immediately elicits a response from Republicans who view those cities as being fully populated by Democrats. I know that Los Angeles in particular is also famous for being immensely populated by Mexican immigrants and has a large LGBTQ+ community. San Diego, I imagine, is probably very similar.

4. Republican voters may be less aware of this, but one last fun fact about Los Angeles is that it has the highest population of Iranian immigrants in the USA. If Iran had the potential for bombing an American city in any way, that city is legitimately a likely target (behind the obvious of Washington D.C. and New York City). There is no other city in America with as many Iranian-born opposers of the current Iranian regime, and there’s even talk that some activists there are being targeted and surveilled already. So Trump probably wasn’t thinking about it, but he did pick a city that would specifically be in danger.

5. Of course I don’t have evidence one way or another, but I’d be AMAZED if Iran ever had the capability of hitting American cities, even if they manage to independently develop nuclear weaponry. I‘m fairly certain that would only be plausible with assistance from Russia and/or China, which would be insanely dumb and dangerous of them to invest ICBMs into Iran. Like, what good would that do for Russia/China? Yeah, Iran could attack America on their behalf, but the rule of “mutually assured destruction” would certainly pull them into that nuclear war, too. If Iran becomes a nuclear state, then they threaten US allies around the Middle East, NOT the USA directly. Trump mentioning Iran bombing any cities on American soil is stupid fear-mongering. It’s really Russia, China, and North Korea that pose that risk, not Iran.

6. Democrats are going to interpret this quote as Trump directly welcoming Iran to bomb those cities. I mean, he did say “Let them,” so that’s not a stretch of the imagination out of context. News headlines are obviously going to tout that interpretation for higher viewership. While that will serve only to further infuriate his myriad enemies, this is also a massive appeal to his fanbase (as I mentioned in point 2). He is dipping into a lot of desperate actions to excite his followers (remember, he recently promised $5,000 per citizen that will obviously never happen), so there is a possibility that he might throw out even more of this sort of violent rhetoric leading up to the midterms. This won’t be the last time we hear him support violence leading up to November, mark my words.

7. As always, Trump is promising a swift end to the war. It would be funny and ironic if so many lives weren’t in danger. Also, notice that all of my points focus on his statements regarding bombing cities? That’s the whole point of this message. He is once again deflecting blame for the high costs, this time by directing everyone’s attention to a mythical, fantastical vision of nuclear war.

So yeah, this small quote has excited a ton of emotions in me. It’s feeling like dangerous statements such as this are weirdly acceptable now here in the States since he gets no real reprimand for it, and I’m really worried about that.

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  • I doubt if Iran could attack America, but if anything should happen it will give conspiracy theorists a field day. I think most of us in the UK know it's a sick attempt at humour, but there will be people who believe it.

    I'm not surprised you're worried, I wish I could say you're overreacting, but I don't think you are, not just the fact that Trump can say such a thing with no censure, but that hundreds of people agreed with him.

  • not just the fact that Trump can say such a thing with no censure, but that hundreds of people agreed with him.

    Yeah, honestly reading what he said didn’t bother me too much (I’m pretty sure the article I was reading was left-leaning, so I take stuff I glean from those articles carefully), but when I watched a video to confirm that is what he said, that’s when I heard the cheering. Bottom line, that’s the most terrifying part about this whole debacle.

    I remember back when I was a politically-unaware professor (I was a single issue voter on LGBTQ+ rights), I had a student make a disturbing and unwarranted comment that if he had a time machine, he’d prioritize dropping a t-rex on a Democratic convention. Like, violent political comments coming from a powerless student is alarming enough, but a world leader? And that was just one example of the potentially hundreds of thousands of uneducated Americans that would relish a chance to physically hurt the opposition on either side.

  • I think one of the interesting things about cults like MAGA and the leaders of them like Trump, is that so many educated people believe them! You'd hope that being educated would make this sort of thing less likely, but maybe its about the way people are educated, or because theyhave a narrow focus and want everything else to be simple?

  • As far as I'm concerned you're welcome here if you need refuge, but I hope you never do.

    That is incredibly sweet of you and I very much appreciate that. Don’t worry about me, though. I think I’ve said it before, but I‘m in the safest demographic possible and can fake being a pious Christian naturally. Even if worst case scenarios were to occur, I’m am very safe.

    it was also very much a young against old situation too. Do you have that in the states too?

    Oh yes, particularly because generally younger generations are more likely Democrat while older are more likely Republican, though that’s certainly not 100% the issue (ex. Charlie Kirk was initially famous for recruiting young men into the Republican Party before he became a martyr). I think the primary issue is increasingly widening chasms socially and culturally between generations. Cultural dissonance, even within similar racial or religious groups, seems immense right now.

    Another big gap in understanding between Brits and Americans is what constitutes right and left politically

    I’ve come to realize that’s a thing. While Democrats are in actuality mostly center-left, it really feels as though everything is black and white here. Either you’re far-left or far-right. Nobody is proud to be centrist.

    An urban/rural split, thats always hard, we had quite a bit of that aorund brexit, it was really horrible and divisive

    Yeah, sounds very comparable to what it is like around here. I live in suburbs to a large city, so it’s much less predictable what your neighbors believe in. I have to be a little more careful in the town I work in though, since it’s a little further out into the country. Oddly, my employer feels as though it’s an outlier, since everybody employed here has to care about others in some capacity lol. I know one of my bosses is a Democrat and I suspect my other boss is at least left-leaning.

  • I can imagine that having to move a family everyone one have to want to go, I might be a bit easier if it was for work, but even then it would be hard for those who are happy where they are. Wider family can be even worse, my unlce had a fit when my Dad told him they were moving to the south coast, my uncle didn't think it was right for people to leave thier home town.

    An urban/rural split, thats always hard, we had quite a bit of that aorund brexit, it was really horrible and divisive, I was called a traitor for wanting to remain and not because I was a particular fan of the EU, but because I thought we'd be worse off out of it. It actually got quite scary for a while, people were just shouting at each other and not listening, it was also very much a young against old situation too. Do you have that in the states too?

    We have a few Raise the Flag types round here, trouble is half of them want Welsh Independence and the others want to remain an English outpost, I don't know if I'd be vulnerable bcause I'm English or not, my neighbours say I'm a "local", which is a compliment, it often takes 3 or more generations before you're considered local. I can just see our street being defended by pensioners with pitchforks, lol. I'm glad we don't have guns here, like you do, the opinion of many Brits is that, yes your constitution allows you to be sleeveless any time you like, but why do you need military grade weapons? I know it's a chasm of not understanding, I think most of us agree that if you have dangerous animals like bears then you do need a gun to defend yourself, but an RPG?

    Another big gap in understanding between Brits and Americans is what constitutes right and left politically, many Americans seem to call people who we would think of as conservatives or centre right, as the far left. It leaves many of us Brits scratching our heads thinking, Eh?,

    As far as I'm concerned you're welcome here if you need refuge, but I hope you never do.

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  • I can imagine that having to move a family everyone one have to want to go, I might be a bit easier if it was for work, but even then it would be hard for those who are happy where they are. Wider family can be even worse, my unlce had a fit when my Dad told him they were moving to the south coast, my uncle didn't think it was right for people to leave thier home town.

    An urban/rural split, thats always hard, we had quite a bit of that aorund brexit, it was really horrible and divisive, I was called a traitor for wanting to remain and not because I was a particular fan of the EU, but because I thought we'd be worse off out of it. It actually got quite scary for a while, people were just shouting at each other and not listening, it was also very much a young against old situation too. Do you have that in the states too?

    We have a few Raise the Flag types round here, trouble is half of them want Welsh Independence and the others want to remain an English outpost, I don't know if I'd be vulnerable bcause I'm English or not, my neighbours say I'm a "local", which is a compliment, it often takes 3 or more generations before you're considered local. I can just see our street being defended by pensioners with pitchforks, lol. I'm glad we don't have guns here, like you do, the opinion of many Brits is that, yes your constitution allows you to be sleeveless any time you like, but why do you need military grade weapons? I know it's a chasm of not understanding, I think most of us agree that if you have dangerous animals like bears then you do need a gun to defend yourself, but an RPG?

    Another big gap in understanding between Brits and Americans is what constitutes right and left politically, many Americans seem to call people who we would think of as conservatives or centre right, as the far left. It leaves many of us Brits scratching our heads thinking, Eh?,

    As far as I'm concerned you're welcome here if you need refuge, but I hope you never do.

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  • As far as I'm concerned you're welcome here if you need refuge, but I hope you never do.

    That is incredibly sweet of you and I very much appreciate that. Don’t worry about me, though. I think I’ve said it before, but I‘m in the safest demographic possible and can fake being a pious Christian naturally. Even if worst case scenarios were to occur, I’m am very safe.

    it was also very much a young against old situation too. Do you have that in the states too?

    Oh yes, particularly because generally younger generations are more likely Democrat while older are more likely Republican, though that’s certainly not 100% the issue (ex. Charlie Kirk was initially famous for recruiting young men into the Republican Party before he became a martyr). I think the primary issue is increasingly widening chasms socially and culturally between generations. Cultural dissonance, even within similar racial or religious groups, seems immense right now.

    Another big gap in understanding between Brits and Americans is what constitutes right and left politically

    I’ve come to realize that’s a thing. While Democrats are in actuality mostly center-left, it really feels as though everything is black and white here. Either you’re far-left or far-right. Nobody is proud to be centrist.

    An urban/rural split, thats always hard, we had quite a bit of that aorund brexit, it was really horrible and divisive

    Yeah, sounds very comparable to what it is like around here. I live in suburbs to a large city, so it’s much less predictable what your neighbors believe in. I have to be a little more careful in the town I work in though, since it’s a little further out into the country. Oddly, my employer feels as though it’s an outlier, since everybody employed here has to care about others in some capacity lol. I know one of my bosses is a Democrat and I suspect my other boss is at least left-leaning.