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If pro-independence parties win tomorrow

TheCatWoman

How likely do you think it is that the UK will break up?

Would you like to see independance of Scotland and Wales?

What of England, how would it react?

What would you see as a workable alternative to  control from Westminster?

Personally I'd be quite happy for the UK to break up and reform in a more equal way, maybe as a federation. 

I think it could drag our politics kicking and screaming into the 21stC.

I think it would be good if the devolved parliaments were given more powers and we all elect representatives to a reformed House of Lords that would oversee things that we could share, like defence, national security, national infrastructure ands things where it would be counter productive to have seperately. I think if that happened then there would also be calls for some Englsih regions to have more devolved powers too. I think the UK is quite unusual in its lack of regional devolution, other countries seem to be more regionally devolved but retain a strong national government.

I think England would be in uproar and would really hate it, when you live somewhere like Anglesey you get a real sense that many English people don't see us as a national with its own traditions and parliament that makes some rules, it feels like we're treated like a conquered people, even after 800 years. I say this as an English person. I do think England should have its own parliament to decide purely English issues as I agree with many English people that the current system feels unbalanced, it dosent' help that so many poeple are so poorly educated in politics.

 I guess we'll find out over the coming days and months how all this will play out

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  • TheCatWoman said:
    I think England would be in uproar and would really hate it, when you live somewhere like Anglesey you get a real sense that many English people don't see us as a national with its own traditions and parliament that makes some rules, it feels like we're treated like a conquered people, even after 800 years.

    I don't see this in anyone I know and talk to.

    To be honest I feel that to many English people it's far less important than the cost of living crisis and English politics to the point of irrelevance.

    For example, my local and county councils are likely to become Reform and that is what is engaging my interest/concern.

    In fact, I've been debating the ethics of tactical voting after receiving a leaflet from the Conservative Party that detailed how voting Tory was the only way to keep Reform out as they are head-to-head.

    It would be a very odd thing for me to do after a lifetime of voting Labour.

    I do however believe in fairness so I'd be happy to see Wales become independent if that is what the majority of Welsh people want.

  • in reply to B

    There are websites that help with tactical voting information, so you can check the numbers yourself for your area. I hate doing it too, my area doesn't have my preferred party so I might. But the region vote does (we have two votes to cast, one for each), and it's proportional representation which means I can vote how I want and it can mean something.

  • in reply to Cinnabar_wing

    I just voted first and it feels good to have a say

  • in reply to emanningis
    emanningis said:
    Either way, Good luck :-) 

    Interesting. 

    Thank you. 

    You too.

  • in reply to B

    I once heard, that even when both options are bad, I should vote less evil, then at least we are not maximising evil (but not those without any chance, imho, which makes no difference).

    Either way, Good luck :-) 

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