Artemis II launch

I feel like your argument for it being fake also works as an argument for it not being. If it was fake, why haven't we "been back"? Video technology has increased in quality, but so have visual and practical effects that could fake this. It's not been impossible for the last 50 years. Why wouldn't they keep filming if they could?

Tim Dodd did a long breakdown into various claims: https://youtu.be/fMHLvoWZfqQ

Strong evidence, both pro and con.

Yes, there was the ability to phone, to the Moon, being a doozy. However, the United States Government has access to technology TWENTY-FIVE YEARS in advance of public sale. Back, twenty years ago, George W Bush had access to to 1T Broadband Speed; we still don't even have such speed now, even with Fibre Optic.

Thanks Marianne, your kind words are much appreciated 

Alice-nice-Alice said:

Im feeling extremely negative about humankind and its future

I'm sure we're all with you in wishing you peace of mind and a more hopeful future. I read in a wonderful book, 'Sweet Thames Run Softly' by Robert Gibbings [the first BBC naturalist] this line [from memory] 'war raged but nature continued on her course and flowers continued to bloom..' Take heart - there is always good in the world, no matter what. 

Jalapeno said:

If after 60 years of space flight with the advance of computing, engineering and tech - why haven't they been back ?

Money and politics.

The original race was just to be first to demonstrate technical superiority over the USSR.

Having got there, the tv viewing figures for the second and subsequent landings reduced dramatically. The last ones were barely reported. There was the war in Vietnam. There was no overriding technical reason to keep going back, it was clear there was no life and they'd proved they could do it  Taxpayers questioned the value for money. There were oil shortages and more pressing issues with the economy.

T️he last 2 Apollo rockets were scrapped if I remember correctly.

The focus shifted to space stations, although that also struggled to find a true purpose, and unmanned probes.

So why go now? They believe they are in a technical race with China. The south pole may have frozen  water, good for drinking, making air and rocket fuel, and they would like to claim the best spot(s).

Also technology has moved on.

The space race, like war, drove a lot of progress, primarily because there is huge funding for scientific research and new stuff gets found with many spin off uses. Perhaps trips to the moon and a base might drive new insights, materials and technology. It is not always easy to predict what will come, but exploration throughout history has always delivered surprises.

Having been to Space Center Houston and seeing the moon landing mock-up I really think they filmed the moon landing.

If after 60 years of space flight with the advance of computing, engineering and tech - why haven't they been back ? maybe they never got there 

So the grainy tv picture of the day are no longer - now with 4K TV can we expect a CGI creation in a few years time ? 

I watched it on iPlayer  as catch up earlier, the launch was very impressive and definitely reminiscent of the Apollo Saturn V launches. I was fortunate to be interested and at the right age to remember the later part of the Gemini programme, all the Apollo launches including the famoys, 8, 11 and 13, but sadly too recoiled at the horror of the launchpad fire in a very early Apollo launch. Then the two Shuttle disasters which were hideous too but expected statistically by NASA, and the astronauts knew the risks they were taking. It felt as NASA wound down the space program that it mirrored the hope of new tech draining from humanity. 

Im feeling extremely negative about humankind and its future atm, but this weekend Im really struggling mentally so everything looks bleak and hopeless. 

note to mods: Im not at risk of suicide as my crisis support (no thanks to the sainted nhs) is working well  

I love Voyager my fav series! 

I love Star Trek in all it's forms, yes even Discovery but we'll not talk about the Klingons. I got quite emotional when SNW did the opening monologue.

I saw the countdown and launch on Newsround! As a child I would always dream about being in space (where my love of Star Trek comes from)!

This was on Twitter (yes I'm not calling it X). Artemis II launch it was amazing.

Try BBC here.

NASA's Artemis II Crew Launches To The Moon (Official Broadcast)

i missed it, is there anywhere i can rewatch like channel 4222 on samsung tv?

I remember reading "The right stuff" by Tom Wolfe, which is about the early stages of the US space race. It was later made into a fairly entertaining movie/film.

First Man which is a movie about Neil Armstrong and the moon landing.

Obviously Apollo 13

Even the film Hidden Figures is an important part of the story which is probably least considered.

I sometimes look up into the nights sky and it just makes me feel so small and insignificant but not in a really sad way. We are all part of the bigger picture, unfortunately it can take an eternity to find where we belong! I don't mean that in a religious way, that's never been something that has challenged me, maybe I'm just too logical and I just need something more tangible.

I sure this could lead onto a much larger discussion. Personally I don't care who or what you believe in, you just need to be a better person and that comes from within you, not from some divine presence.

I'm sorry if some may find this view contrary to their belief but that is my belief.

I've just started watching For All Mankind on Apple TV. It's an American science fiction drama that focuses on an alternative, fictional version of the space race, starting just before the moon landing.

I won't post any spoilers - not least because I've only watched three episodes, so far - but I'm enjoying it a lot, and there have already been plenty of interesting surprises.

It might also be of particular interest to you, Stuart333      

 Apple TV (UK)

When I was a kid, I vaguely remember the Apollo missions ending I think. I thought we would have a moon base, we would go to Mars. I wanted to go into space. I thought it would be here by 2000.

It has been very disappointing to see nothing much happen for over 40 years. I have grown older. I am pleased I saw all the probes go to the planets and even the flyby of Pluto. I didn't think I would see that. There was minimal info about the planets when I was a child.

I went to Cape Canaveral, Kennedy Space Centre. I saw the shuttle and other items. I spent 3 whole days there, I tried to see as much as I could. It was better than I expected, and few things ever are.

I am pleased they are going back to the moon. I am sad I won't ever be able to. 

I stayed up all night as a child to watch the moon landing and will never forget it. It was really exciting to watch Artemis take off safely. It takes your mind off other things going on in the world.

I watched it live last night as I was working anyway. It was amazing but it did make me so nervous. I didn't see Challenger at the time as I was too little, but have seen it since on a programme (I don't like seeing things where people have got hurt or lost their lives). I was so anxious of something like that happening again, I was biting my hand and rapping my head (not hard), but it was all okay in the end and was successful. They did keep talking about the wonder of the noise vibrating through you, I imagine that would be something else to be in person! 

I hope the mission goes well for them. They said they saw the moon rise in front of them as they roared into space. It must have been breathtaking to know that was also your destination to fly right round it.