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Oliver McGowan Training

mrs.snooks

I had my Tier 1, Part 2 Training yesterday - online on Teams. And just wanted to say how good (overall) it was. 

The discussion from the two people with lived experience was one of the most useful bits of training I have had in a very long time. For me, the thoughts from the Autistic person were not new knowledge. But the thoughts from the person with a Learning Disability and Autism were a fresh, insightful reminder of how to better speak and treat people with learning disabilities.

There were a few painful parts from me:

1. That the training was provided by a private (non-NHS) Company hence making profit from providing the talk.

2. The facilitator was awful - patronising and seeming totally not thinking that she needed to take on board the advice that the speakers were teaching us.

3. It was a complete trigger for me and I felt quite awful afterwards.

4. That I felt I should have come out on the talk. It's funny. There I was and I wondered. Did the lived experience people know that there would be neurodivergent listeners right there with them 'in the room' as it were?

5. That it should be Part 1 of the Training. Much much better than the current part 1 - apologies to those who have tried to help with Part 1 to engage the reader, but the endless elearning just sucks the life out of it.

Anyone else done this training?

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  • I have observed the Tier 2 pm session on Autism with one company.  I found it powerful and I was impressed with the delivery I saw.  As an Autistic person who is also a qualified trainer it is something I want to get involved with, so your thoughts here are valuable to me.

    And yes indeed, the probability that at least one of the delegates on these courses is Autistic or otherwise neurodivergent themselves is high.  Good!  We need Autistic people to be working in health and social care as they are our best hope of receiving the support that we actually need. 

    You raise an interesting point about the "coming out" though.  I once heard a pod cast by an Autistic lady working in mental health services trying to support other neurodivergent colleagues.  It speaks volumes and is exasperating that she seemed to be saying that many of them dare not 'come out' in case others assumed they lacked all empathy and could not do their job!  Irony, when they are exactly the people Autistic patients need to be there.  I guess there is no easy answer to that one and people must do what they judge best for them.

    I'm sorry that your main facilitator seemed to be patronising.  IT's probably worth you feeding that back to the providers with some examples.

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  • I have observed the Tier 2 pm session on Autism with one company.  I found it powerful and I was impressed with the delivery I saw.  As an Autistic person who is also a qualified trainer it is something I want to get involved with, so your thoughts here are valuable to me.

    And yes indeed, the probability that at least one of the delegates on these courses is Autistic or otherwise neurodivergent themselves is high.  Good!  We need Autistic people to be working in health and social care as they are our best hope of receiving the support that we actually need. 

    You raise an interesting point about the "coming out" though.  I once heard a pod cast by an Autistic lady working in mental health services trying to support other neurodivergent colleagues.  It speaks volumes and is exasperating that she seemed to be saying that many of them dare not 'come out' in case others assumed they lacked all empathy and could not do their job!  Irony, when they are exactly the people Autistic patients need to be there.  I guess there is no easy answer to that one and people must do what they judge best for them.

    I'm sorry that your main facilitator seemed to be patronising.  IT's probably worth you feeding that back to the providers with some examples.

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