We're all on the Spectrum

The idea of the spectrum as a metaphor, a spectrum is a rainbiw or band of visible light sandwiched between darkness, Its a sliver of light in fact only perceptable to humans if we are talking about certain colours, but the rest is black - that is where alll the neurotypicals are

I wouldn't say that pietro, I might get accused of racism, lol

That is probably the most offensive thing you can say to someone with a formal diagnosis. We’re not all on the spectrum. Most ‘normal’ people are not on the spectrum. 

pietro_21 said:

Normal is not a spectrum.

I agree.

Neurotypicality is a state that is diagnosed through measured criteria (eg autism assessment) and can be plotted on a spectrum (the circular one) and the traits traced back to a development "fault" of the brain.

NT is basically those who don't have these developmental "failures".

They can have some of our traits but they do not come from the same causes. It is this that makes them believe they are also "on the spectrum", but it stems from their ignorance.

I read the sub question. Normal is not a spectrum. Autism is because the it is measured within the known parameters and sub conditions (correct me 5) identified by earlier research. These are different universes nt/nd so measurable only on the terms that exist within each. Otherwise it’s somewhat hypothetical, or you’re tranpling on sacred ground. I sometimes ask did a typical normal person ask this question, or is the person a disbeliever?

I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for such a piece of research, it would be good though.

As the initial post I made makes reference to there is overlap between people who are diagnosed to be in the autistic spectrum and the upper end of people who are neurotypical "controls" for this comparison who are in the upper end of the "neurotypical" spectrum.

These people may be undiagnosed autistic.  In a similar fashion that those people on the lower end of the autistic spectrum which overlaps the upper end of the neurotypical might be misdiagnosed.

However one needs to also consider that the assessment is subjective and is taken in several domains that are summed up in assessment (the parts of the autistic spectrum discussed) in that it is not he same as a blood test or similar.  

So to answer your question the people that you talk about probably "look" like they have traits which are sufficient for them to be autistic ... ... ... 

How they are?

It is impossible to know without finding out...

I could guess they are some of the most "successful" autists in respect of getting by in society therefore do not need a diagnosis.

Equally I could guess that they are getting a hold whole of grief from a neurotypical society and just don't realise why they are different.

What a great idea for a piece of research that might be, maybe it's already been done - perhaps you might find out for yourself...

I agree pietro, but this is what we're all told and I wondered what the extreme NT end of the spectrum looks like and how people who are at that end are?

I agree pietro, but this is what we're all told and I wondered what the extreme NT end of the spectrum looks like and how people who are at that end are?

pietro_21 said:

Normal is not a spectrum.

I agree.

Neurotypicality is a state that is diagnosed through measured criteria (eg autism assessment) and can be plotted on a spectrum (the circular one) and the traits traced back to a development "fault" of the brain.

NT is basically those who don't have these developmental "failures".

They can have some of our traits but they do not come from the same causes. It is this that makes them believe they are also "on the spectrum", but it stems from their ignorance.

I read the sub question. Normal is not a spectrum. Autism is because the it is measured within the known parameters and sub conditions (correct me 5) identified by earlier research. These are different universes nt/nd so measurable only on the terms that exist within each. Otherwise it’s somewhat hypothetical, or you’re tranpling on sacred ground. I sometimes ask did a typical normal person ask this question, or is the person a disbeliever?

I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for such a piece of research, it would be good though.

As the initial post I made makes reference to there is overlap between people who are diagnosed to be in the autistic spectrum and the upper end of people who are neurotypical "controls" for this comparison who are in the upper end of the "neurotypical" spectrum.

These people may be undiagnosed autistic.  In a similar fashion that those people on the lower end of the autistic spectrum which overlaps the upper end of the neurotypical might be misdiagnosed.

However one needs to also consider that the assessment is subjective and is taken in several domains that are summed up in assessment (the parts of the autistic spectrum discussed) in that it is not he same as a blood test or similar.  

So to answer your question the people that you talk about probably "look" like they have traits which are sufficient for them to be autistic ... ... ... 

How they are?

It is impossible to know without finding out...

I could guess they are some of the most "successful" autists in respect of getting by in society therefore do not need a diagnosis.

Equally I could guess that they are getting a hold whole of grief from a neurotypical society and just don't realise why they are different.

What a great idea for a piece of research that might be, maybe it's already been done - perhaps you might find out for yourself...