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Our Attitude towards 'Across the Pond'

Desmond1979

America had Thanksgiving, today. Which we don't celebrate. However, the forthcoming US Shopping Days - Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Giving Tuesday - have Religious devotion here.

This makes me wonder what our true relationship with the US is. The 'Special Relationship' is embroiled with chicanery, both countries trying to 'Influence' each other. There doesn't seem to be much mutual respect. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

Our view of the US seems distorted by the 'Opinion Formers' who view America as Provincial and Backwards. While, without a hint of irony, the same bureaucrats idolise US Folk/Alt-Country and US Literature. The Americans may seem Crazy, but perhaps there was a method in that madness; all along.

Which begs the question, why do we keep trusting Democracy; while the majority are hoodwinked? The only way to heal National wounds is Free-Trade. The exchange of ideas, and Human Capital, which provide mutual benefits. Americans seem to have the secret of coping in an insane world. Rather than mock, and ridicule, we should look towards them to pass on their knowledge. But only a Post-Political Society can act so mature.

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  • Yeh America sucks now because of Donald trump he's like a dictator. Scotland doesn't like America. Scottish people protest when Donald trump comes to Scotland to play golf

  • in reply to Bananatropics26

    I disagree. 

    Scottish people in general don't like Donald Trump. British people in Scotland in general seem to like him. I don't really think that changes how people view the US. The existed a long time before Donald Trump and will exist for a long time after him. If people are changing their view of the country on the basis of it's temporary leader, then I think that they need to reassess whether or not they really liked that country in the first place...

  • in reply to Kevmck
    Kevmck said:
    British people in Scotland in general seem to like him.

    I don't know anyone there who does like him from my extended family.

    Kevmck said:
    If people are changing their view of the country on the basis of it's temporary leader,

    It seems more the fact that country would willingly elect someone with his track record and blatant promises - he never hid his fascist leanings or plans to destroy the opposition.

    If the majority really wanted this then it reflects very pooly on their morals and ideals.

  • in reply to Iain
    Iain said:
    I don't know anyone there who does like him from my extended family

    That's hardly a representative sample of the British people in Scotland.  The fact is that because your family are related they are likely to hold similar views. There are plenty of Scotland based British Social media accounts that back up my assertion. I also stated 'in general' to convey that it's not to be considered a universal view.

    Iain said:

    It seems more the fact that country would willingly elect someone with his track record and blatant promises - he never hid his fascist leanings or plans to destroy the opposition.

    If the majority really wanted this then it reflects very pooly on their morals and ideals.

    It's not really down to the majority view of the population though. Although it is a significant percentage of the total. Ultimately it shows the democratic limitations of the US system of democracy. The fact that people are willing to elect people with questionable leanings shows how much people nowadays are ignorant of history and influenced by social media. Not to mention that people tend to be heavily influenced by tribalism and tribalism is really what's responsible for the majority of human inflicted tragedies throughout history. 

    People worry about AI bringing about the end of the world. I think that social media is already ending the world we know. 

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  • in reply to Iain
    Iain said:
    I don't know anyone there who does like him from my extended family

    That's hardly a representative sample of the British people in Scotland.  The fact is that because your family are related they are likely to hold similar views. There are plenty of Scotland based British Social media accounts that back up my assertion. I also stated 'in general' to convey that it's not to be considered a universal view.

    Iain said:

    It seems more the fact that country would willingly elect someone with his track record and blatant promises - he never hid his fascist leanings or plans to destroy the opposition.

    If the majority really wanted this then it reflects very pooly on their morals and ideals.

    It's not really down to the majority view of the population though. Although it is a significant percentage of the total. Ultimately it shows the democratic limitations of the US system of democracy. The fact that people are willing to elect people with questionable leanings shows how much people nowadays are ignorant of history and influenced by social media. Not to mention that people tend to be heavily influenced by tribalism and tribalism is really what's responsible for the majority of human inflicted tragedies throughout history. 

    People worry about AI bringing about the end of the world. I think that social media is already ending the world we know. 

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