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On the use of forms

Hairyloon

I've been fighting with the court about their application forms as a point of principle, but in the course of proceedings the question has raised of whether people with divergent mental makeup might actually really struggle.
They do give me some trouble, when they ask questions that are not relevant in my case: there is always some doubt about leaving things blank.

While i hesitate to call autism a disability, it is legally recognised as one, and if people do actually struggle with unnecessary forms, then maybe I should carry on the fight for their benefit.

Any thoughts?

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  • Hairyloon said:
    maybe I should carry on the fight for their benefit.

    My approach to this would be to first ask if I had a mandate to do this. i.e. am I assuming that they want it or has someone explicitly asked for it.

    If there is a mandate then do I have the user requirements to ask for what they really want. Have I gained a consensus for a particular result here or am I assuming again. 

    You would probably be best to engage with a charity like NAS to ask their opinion or you may be fighting for something that almost nobody wants and could potentially change things to make it harder for an even larger group.

    Once you have these 2 things clear then the decision to fight or not should become a lot clearer.

    Just my opinion of course.

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    Iain said:
    My approach to this would be to first ask if I had a mandate to do this. i.e. am I assuming that they want it or has someone explicitly asked for it.

    I'm just fighting for choice: should people be allowed to apply simply by following the rules, or must they be obliged to wade through 15 pages of paperwork?

    I found it a lot easier to apply by following the rules: pretty much all that you need to do is forward the email from the regulator to the court with a note of explanation, whereas, as I said, the form is 15 pages, and the only identifiable reason for using it is because they are obsessively bureaucratic.

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    Hairyloon said:
    the only identifiable reason for using it is because they are obsessively bureaucratic.

    I worked in the Civil Service and can confirm that most parts of it have people who would happily make each field on any form contain pages of guidance notes.

    Most of the team I managed there had neurodivergent traits and there was beurocracy everywhere because people loved to have rules.

    It sounds like you came across some of this in your application.

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    Hairyloon said:
    the only identifiable reason for using it is because they are obsessively bureaucratic.

    I worked in the Civil Service and can confirm that most parts of it have people who would happily make each field on any form contain pages of guidance notes.

    Most of the team I managed there had neurodivergent traits and there was beurocracy everywhere because people loved to have rules.

    It sounds like you came across some of this in your application.

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