Brilliant John Gray interview in the New Statesman.

This is a brilliant interview and discussion with John Gray making many excellent points. Which I would like to discuss with people. If anyone can make it through the whole 80 minute interview. 

I am a High Tory, supporter of the Aristocratic High state being restored. So I support the overthrow of the Liberal managerial state and restoring Parliament, the common law, the Royal Navy so on. 

What I find really interesting is that Mr Gray makes all the right points I would make as a High Tory about the current Liberal consensus with live under and the need for Parliamentary accountability to be restored. I also agree with him the Thomas Hobbs was a form of Liberal. 

Its also because I want more Liberal minded members on here to question there Liberalism from a left-wing perspective. I can question it from a right-wing perspective, but I don't know how to do that from the left-wing side. Any discussion on these important topics within society and the depth of learning, knowledge, experience of Mr Gray is a good starting point for this. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDXwjeMB_k  

Thanks. 

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  • I am a High Tory, supporter of the Aristocratic High state being restored

    Does this mean the masses being effectively controlled by the unelected elite who have inherited their positions?

  • I imagine it does sadly Upside down I asked Meta AI what John Gray's political persuasion is and this is what it said:

    *Political persuasion:* John Gray ( author of _Straw Dogs_ ) is generally described as a *pessimistic conservative* or *cultural conservative* with strong *anti‑progressivist*, *skeptical‑liberal* leanings.

    | Aspect | Typical characterisation |

    |--------|--------------------------|

    | *Philosophical stance* | Criticizes Enlightenment rationalism, scientific optimism, and utopian political projects; emphasizes limits of human knowledge and the “tragedy of the human condition.” |

    | *Political label* | _Conservative_ (cultural) – often grouped with “reactionary” or “counter‑Enlightenment” thinkers, though he rejects traditional party politics. |

    | *Key themes in _Straw Dogs_* | Anti‑progress, anti‑humanism, ecological limits, disillusionment with liberal democracy’s promises. |

    | *Self‑description* | Gray describes himself as a *skeptic* of all grand ideologies; he does not align neatly with left‑right spectrum but leans toward a *conservative realism* that values tradition and stability over radical change. |

    *Why the label?*

    - He critiques liberalism, Marxism, and neoliberalism as “secular religions.”

    - He upholds a *pessimistic view of human nature* and the dangers of hubristic attempts to reshape society, which are typical conservative cautionary motifs.

    - Yet he does not advocate for a specific party program; his work is more a *philosophical critique* than a political manifesto.

    _Sources:_

    - Gray, J. (2002). _Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals_. London: Granta.

    - Gray, J. (2007). _Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia_. London: Allen Lane.

    - Secondary literature: e.g., “John Gray: The Conservative Critic of Liberalism,” _The Guardian_ (2009).

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  • I imagine it does sadly Upside down I asked Meta AI what John Gray's political persuasion is and this is what it said:

    *Political persuasion:* John Gray ( author of _Straw Dogs_ ) is generally described as a *pessimistic conservative* or *cultural conservative* with strong *anti‑progressivist*, *skeptical‑liberal* leanings.

    | Aspect | Typical characterisation |

    |--------|--------------------------|

    | *Philosophical stance* | Criticizes Enlightenment rationalism, scientific optimism, and utopian political projects; emphasizes limits of human knowledge and the “tragedy of the human condition.” |

    | *Political label* | _Conservative_ (cultural) – often grouped with “reactionary” or “counter‑Enlightenment” thinkers, though he rejects traditional party politics. |

    | *Key themes in _Straw Dogs_* | Anti‑progress, anti‑humanism, ecological limits, disillusionment with liberal democracy’s promises. |

    | *Self‑description* | Gray describes himself as a *skeptic* of all grand ideologies; he does not align neatly with left‑right spectrum but leans toward a *conservative realism* that values tradition and stability over radical change. |

    *Why the label?*

    - He critiques liberalism, Marxism, and neoliberalism as “secular religions.”

    - He upholds a *pessimistic view of human nature* and the dangers of hubristic attempts to reshape society, which are typical conservative cautionary motifs.

    - Yet he does not advocate for a specific party program; his work is more a *philosophical critique* than a political manifesto.

    _Sources:_

    - Gray, J. (2002). _Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals_. London: Granta.

    - Gray, J. (2007). _Black Mass: Apocalyptic Religion and the Death of Utopia_. London: Allen Lane.

    - Secondary literature: e.g., “John Gray: The Conservative Critic of Liberalism,” _The Guardian_ (2009).

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