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Angels

TheCatWoman

Does anyone believe in angels?

What do you believe them to be?

What about nefilim, the half human half angel hybrids that the Great Flood from the bible was supposed to have wiped out?

I find the whole subject fascinating, quite a few cultures have angels in thier religious beliefs, some of them not from an Abrahamic tradition. 

As someone said on another thread, do angels have the equipment to procreate?

Lucifer who was said to have been cast out of heaven by god along with his followers and went to hell and became the devil and demons etc, did hell already exist? Was it vacant when Lucifer took up residence there? A Lucifer figure appears in many religions and myths to, whats-his-face being punnished for giving humans fire and the other one who pushes a rock up a hill everyday only for it to roll back down every night and the one who has his liver pecked out by and eagle on a daily basis, why do we need these transgressive figures who appear to want to aid human development only to be punished by god who seemingly dosen't want us to develope?

There are also lots of myths about Watchers, Grigori and others who are the decendents of the Nephilim and keep watch ove rthe earth and certain individials and maybe bloodlines?

Parents

  • There are estimated to be around 1 million descendants of King Edward I around today. Edward was a member of the Plantagenet dynasty, who were descended from the Counts of Anjou. According to legend, the Angevin house was descended from a strange woman that an early count married. On forced to remain in church for the elevation of the host, she took her younger children in her arms and ascended through a window into the sky. She was supposed to have been the lamia, or demoness, Melusine, daughter of Satan. It was later used as an excuse for bad temper and behaviour, not least by Richard the Lionheart.

    If you believe in this, then there are a million descendants of Satan walking around. A bit like believing everywhere is teeming with unseen angels.

    I did some research and, allegedly, I am a descendant of the Grail Kings, and ultimately from Morgause, the sister of King Arthur. There is a lot of bizarre stuff about.

  • in reply to Martin
    Martin said:
    If you believe in this, then there are a million descendants of Satan walking around. A bit like believing everywhere is teeming with unseen angels.

    People can be open to believing anything, even semi-angelic agents of darkness.

    I think a lot of the beliefs people have can come from images in art and popular culture. If you ask a group of Christians what sort of fruit Adam and Eve ate in the Garden of Eden, many will say “Apple”, yet the Hebrew text and English translations don’t specify the type. Traditionally art has depicted an apple tree in the Garden of Eden. 

  • in reply to ArchaeC

    I feel like I've missed a bit here? Did someone post something that was later removed?

  • in reply to Iain
    Iain said:
    brothers and sisters to make babies

    The answer will be that it wasn't a sin until later, when it became avoidable. They got a sort of get-out-of-jail-free-for-incest card for the first few generations.

    I'm just making this up, but will I be wrong? ...

  • in reply to DaughteroftheKing
    DaughteroftheKing said:
    I believe we came from 2 people. It does add up. Their genetics were not suffering mutations like ours, they were pure.

    It is not the genetics I was making this point about, but rather the fact that it would have required brothers and sisters to make babies together for the whole procreation thing to work.

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